UFO Propulsion and Mastering Reality with Mark Fiorentino

In this thought-provoking episode of Generation X Paranormal, hosts Logan and Nicole engage with Mark Fiorentino, author of Master of Reality, to delve into the enigmatic realms of UFO propulsion, Einstein's Unified Field Theory, and the profound nature of reality.​

Mark shares his insights into how advanced extraterrestrial technologies might operate, drawing connections between UFO mechanics and theoretical physics. The discussion explores concepts such as time travel, anti-gravity propulsion, and the potential for human consciousness to influence the physical world.​

Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of:​

• The principles behind UFO propulsion systems and their possible link to Unified Field Theory.​
• How mastering the laws of physics could lead to breakthroughs in space travel and interdimensional exploration.​
• The intersection of science and metaphysics in explaining paranormal phenomena.​

This episode is essential for enthusiasts of theoretical physics, ufology, and those curious about the deeper aspects of our universe.

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This week, on Generation X Paranormal.

I just became fascinated by Einstein, Unified Field Theory, which eventually led me into, in my teenager years, into UFOs, and, well, wait a minute, these things fly without rockets.

They got some secrets going on.

They're spacecraft, they're a spatial bias drive of some kind.

They're using force fields that for some reason we don't know about.

And I figured that's part of the Unified Field Theory, but that's the complete picture.

It's not even in the original Einstein version.

You didn't include any gravity in there.

Well, everybody, welcome back.

Hey, everyone.

We are Generation X Paranormal.

I'm Logan.

And I'm Nicole.

Not sure why I put such a big pause on that, but we are, we are Generation X Paranormal.

Hey guys, welcome back, seriously.

We've got a fun show.

It's probably gonna be a little bit more science-based than some of the things we've covered in the past, but I think it's gonna have some more to do with some paranormal stuff, too.

Yeah, to explain the paranormal stuff.

To explain some of the paranormal.

But we have Mark Fiorentino on today.

And what can you tell us about Mark?

So Mark has been obsessed with Einstein's Unified Field Theory ever since hearing about it when he was a boy.

He has studied how the applications of Einstein's theory can be used to travel through space, renewable energy, and future technology.

He is the author of his new book, Master of Reality.

Awesome.

Well, let's dig in.

Yeah, let's dig in.

Well, hey, Mark, how are you doing?

Fine, thank you.

It's good to be here tonight, guys.

Awesome.

It's great to have you.

Welcome to Generation X Paranormal.

Yeah, of course.

Well, you know, I know that we know a bit, we've done some research and we feel like we kind of know you a bit, but for our audience that may not know who you are, can you kind of give us like a 30,000-foot view of kind of like, first of all, what, you know, your past and, you know, kind of a little bit about yourself.

Sure.

I got into electronics pretty early in my life's career.

I did a little thing in media technology, but got out of that and got into electronics.

Got a technical degree from Tampa Technical Institute in Florida.

Great memories from that place.

I learned my true love of electronics and computers.

So from there, I got a job at Harris Government Systems working on a killer satellite program, and then moved to North Carolina to work for IBM for most of my career, and started out in production, and then moved to quality engineering, and then moved to research development lab.

I did a lot of programming and fabrication of automatic test circuitry and such.

Won a lot of technical awards at IBM, IBM Division Award, Outstanding Innovation Award, various awards for things that I did while I was at IBM.

Awesome.

Spent the last few years of Florida working at ImageSoft, and then I worked locally at IT department here in town in Winter Haven Hospital.

And then I retired and wrote the book, and that's where we are right now.

The four years it took to write the book, and then another three or so afterwards, going on shows and continuing my research into gravity and anti-gravity.

That's fantastic.

Yeah.

Geez, what do you do in your off time?

Do you get me?

Well, I decided I wanted to stay busy.

I didn't want to retire and just sit in front of the TV.

Yes.

So I made a conscious choice right on the first day.

I says, I'm going to write this book.

I got all these ideas.

I've had them for many years.

So I've done a lot of research in Unified Field Theory, study Dienstein and all that.

And I said, I might as well write it all up, see what happens.

And so I took my time and the next four years, I stayed busy writing that book.

And I'm glad I did.

It was a real adventure.

Yeah, we'll definitely kind of tap into that a little bit here.

But kind of, kind of starting off that, that first step, you know, in our research of kind of the things that you're, set you on your course, so to say, being a very, very high interest in Albert Einstein.

Can you, can you kind of tell us, you know, that's, that's not unusual.

I mean, having a little smaller science background as I have, you know, I appreciate science and I appreciate Einstein and all the great, the great, for lack of better words, but what, what caused you to kind of jump?

Because I know from what I understand, I was a very early age, right?

Yeah, 10 years old.

I was going to catechism.

I was still living in New Jersey at the time.

Okay.

And they gave us assignment, the kids in the class to find a saint born on our birthday.

There was no Internet in 1965.

Right.

It's not an easy task.

I mean, what, what could you do really to look something like that up?

You ask your parents, other people, maybe.

I eventually went to the calendar and happened to see Einstein's name on my birthday.

So I says, huh, born on the same birthday.

So I read about him and I read articles about the unified field theory, which he was working on.

And I remember to this day, very clearly when I was reading that stuff, I said, this is the most interesting stuff I've ever read in my little short life of 10 years.

Right.

And I just became fascinated by Einstein, unified field theory, which eventually led me into in my teenager years into UFOs.

And, well, wait a minute, these things fly without rockets.

They got some secrets going on.

They're spacecraft, they're a spatial bias drive of some time.

They're using force fields that for some reason we don't know about.

And I figured that's part of the unified field theory, but that's the complete picture.

It's not even in the original Einstein version.

You didn't include any gravity in there.

Right.

So, through the years, I just kept studying, reading about Einstein, reading about Maxwell, and reading about Newton, Faraday, Lorenz, my favorites.

And they all had a common belief in a thing called ether, which then I also studied heavily over the years.

And that's how I got there, basically.

It's just from a fluke thing that's, you know, there's no accidents in life.

That happened on purpose.

That got me to where I saw that, and then it triggered something in my mind that got me to be interested in recognize this got something to do with my life path.

And so obviously, I'm a believer in reincarnation, incarnation, before life, birth, and training to come down to this realm, and to live and experience an incarnation.

And this is part of that.

This is part of what I came to do, I believe.

And that was no accident being introduced to Einstein.

I firmly believe that I know more than I know for sure.

That was part of the plan.

So, that's how I got here, and I'm glad I'm here.

I'm glad to be a part of this adventure.

Well, we're really glad you're here in this, too.

You know, with Einstein, there are so many different theories.

I know he's got at least, what, four or five that are pretty huge.

I know that there's theory, relativity, trying to remember a couple of the other ones.

But I know the one that you've kind of spent a lot of time on is Unified Field Theory.

And I know we're going to talk about that pretty in-depth.

Can you kind of give our audience a little bit of an idea that may not know it?

What the theory basically states and kind of a, I guess, I hate saying it all the time, but like a 30,000 foot flyover of, you know, a major theory.

Of course, that's no problem.

It only really takes one sentence.

Oh, okay.

I will add some extra stuff in just for a little more detail.

So what he believed in and what everybody believed in in the time before 1905 was that there existed a thing called the ether.

And the ether is basically what I would call, and people of that time would call the fundamental field.

So, the Unified Field Theory is electromagnetism and gravity emerges aspects of a single fundamental field.

So, what that means is, the single fundamental field, what they believed and what I still believe today was correct is that it is a quasi-elastic solid.

So, outer space is a real thing.

Right.

But once you get that in your head, it's a real thing and it's quasi-elastic solid, and quasi-meaning, it's, if you stretch it or compress it or twist it, as soon as the force that's doing that removes, it snaps back into a square Euclidean geometry.

Okay.

So, that's the quasi-part.

The elastic means it can be deformed, bent in certain ways, like general relativity talks about.

And solid means that which is continuous.

It's not made up of parts.

It's not a quantum field.

It's a straight, continuous, fundamental field.

So electromagnetism is nothing more than the electrostatic field, which is a twist of space, and the magnetic field.

So when the electrostatic charge goes through space, space rotates.

That's the magnetic field.

Okay.

So somehow, those moving charges, moving through space, makes gravity.

I concluded that has to be true.

Einstein didn't know about certain things.

I guess before I go on, I should stop because I want to just keep to the definition.

Sure.

So basically, electromagnetism, electrostatic field, magnetic field, and the gravity field are just different bendings of the single fundamental field, which is the ether.

That's it.

Okay.

That makes sense.

Now, if I got my asthma shot right here, I know that even breaking it down to the physical, like the core of the earth as it rotates, there is a discharge of electromagnetic charge.

Is that correct?

Well, there's ions in the, I don't know if you want to call it a plasma, or where the layers of the molten lava or magma are at, and in between these layers is iron and nickel, and there's that ion layer that's rotating.

But in the deepest core that they now discovered in the earth, there's a solid core.

There's something solid there, and I say that in my book as well.

The difference is, they think it's a metal, I'm saying it's neutronium.

That's a whole other topic that I cover with three chapters in my book.

I'll just leave it at that unless you want to know more about what neutronium is and so forth.

More than likely, we'll spin them back there.

That's spinning very rapidly.

You've got frame dragging, which is something Einstein proved existed in general relativity.

The other stuff is influenced by this twist of space because of that rapidly rotating solid object, which is heavy massive.

It's twisting and causing that ion field to go, which is then ions moving, charges moving around makes a magnetic field.

And that's where the Earth's magnetic field comes from.

So you never have a magnet unless there's a moving charge.

Right.

Always associated with the moving charge.

My astronomy teacher, I was a planetary science minor, which basically means I remember very little, but they'll be proud that I remembered that much.

So, you know, we've talked about a little bit, but I need to let our audience know that you've released a book.

And we want to kind of start, I guess, tapping into that a little bit.

I know there's so much to it, but when you started writing it, did you have a way you wanted to go with that and start kind of, you know, topic wise and how you wanted to encompass everything?

And did your research change or how did that kind of come about?

Yeah, the research did change due to certain events and circumstances that I was guided to add a chapter on Stargates, which I was not wanting to do, because I don't really know that much.

So I had to research the Stargate phenomenon.

I only knew certain things had to be true when I started that chapter.

But that came at the very last part of the book.

I, you know, you write an outline, or, you know, I made, I want to talk about this, I want to talk about that.

Those were the chapters, right?

So then I would pick that and start it off.

And then I knew I had to order them in a way that makes sense leading up to the discovery of the cause of gravity, which is one of my research papers.

And I include that in the math in the book.

So to talk about the cause of gravity, you got to go back in time, study the ether, explain the Michelson-Morley experiment, explain Lorentz transformations, special relativity.

Eventually you get to the cause of gravitational field, which is basically accelerated.

A rapidly spinning, precessing sphere.

And that's what's the cause of gravity, and that's what my paper involves.

And I got the idea from Einstein and his discovery of something.

Another physicist came up with, Aaron Fest, who basically explained the idea for me to go search for, it's very complicated in a way, because I went to search for the dynamical geometry that Einstein was looking for.

He was looking for something that was going to cause some sort of convolution of space.

So I went looking for it, and I got the idea also from Einstein.

He said, I want to know how God created this world.

I'm not interested in this or that phenomena, in the spectrum of this or that element.

I want to know his thoughts.

The rest are details.

I said, that's a good idea.

You want to know how something works, go to the creator of that something and ask him.

Absolutely.

I knew normally the only way to do that is to die.

Right.

That had to be out.

The next best thing was to go and find a near-death person who saw a geometry while they were having their NDE, which is very rare.

Because I read through dozens and dozens and dozens and I read books and I, you know, I went to the websites and finally after a couple of weeks of searching, I found a lady that saw a geometry.

She called it the pattern.

And I said to myself, if it's right, it will be composed of three parts, representing the three quarks.

She saw this, the pattern, which is three parts.

Perfect.

And then God tells her, I am the energy that forms mass.

So the motion of those particles is the energy.

The way they move causes the phenomena we call mass, which is something that emits a gravitational field.

Everything fit right.

Everything was perfect.

I contacted her, worked with that group, which was, she had a famous mathematician working for her.

And I tried to convince them, that's what this represented.

And I wasn't able to do that, but they were nice and we worked together for a while.

But I went off on my own grass.

I need to look for the formula that explains this.

And if you're not going to help, then I'm going to do it.

It's going to get done and it did get done.

That's how the whole gravity thing started.

That's part of what was the main focus of the book.

But then there was other things.

I talked about the Michael Samourley experiment, what went wrong there, that caused all of physics to go off course from the year 1905 on.

Oddly enough, or ironically, it was partly Einstein who took him that way.

It's a big story.

It's in the book.

It explains why he did what he did to save his theory and cause people to not believe in the ether anymore.

But still, he always based his math.

Special relativity was based on ether theory.

Lorentz transformations were based on ether theory.

Maxwell's equations were based on ether theory.

Come on, obviously, there's something going on here.

All these guys are getting the right answers using ether theory.

Why would we want to abandon it?

Because one experiment failed to detect it.

So anyway, there's other things.

Project Sunshade is in the book, how to cool the earth down.

But we need any gravity technology to do that.

We need any gravity drones to bring the structure into outer space at a cost-effective way, and use a shading system to block enough of the sunlight, 2 percent.

That's all we got to do.

Drop it by 2 percent.

We'll drop our temperature, we'll go down one degree centigrade, and that'll be enough to put us back in the 1940s.

We'll have cold winters again.

That'll be nice.

It'll rebuild the glaciers.

But that doesn't happen unless antigravity happens.

Yeah.

Mark, on that.

Yeah.

Can you unpack the antigravity part?

Obviously, a lot of listeners and watchers are going to know what gravity is.

I mean, if you don't know that, there's other issues.

But I guess a recap on antigravity and the properties.

Yeah.

Well, if, as Einstein said and concluded, that special relativity, the boundary of this contracted ends is fun, is a contraction of space.

So that if you picture a point, a point mass or whatever, the arrows of force, the gravitational force are all pointing inward toward it.

From all that, there's no pole.

It's in all directions.

It's a contraction.

So that space literally is pulled, it's an elastic, so it's pulled toward it, and it condenses as it contracts around that point.

That's the gravitational field.

So antigravity would have to be not a contraction of space, an expansion.

So we have to find a mechanism, a way for that to happen using particles like electrons or photons or something.

And so I set about the task of going back through the history of antigravity research, you know, listening to people like Bob Lazar, which I think he's a little flaky, but he did make a few good points that he either knows somebody that knows about the antigravity technology or he really did work at Area 51.

But setting him aside, because he's not a reliable witness, Thomas Townsend Brown, TT.

Brown, did some amazing work.

And I, in my opinion, is really truly the first discoverer of antigravities.

Maybe Tesla was before him.

I haven't read where Tesla really talked about antigravity that much until I see some documents or read somebody that knows about that more.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tesla knew it too, but antigravity is an expansion of space.

So in my research now, I had to find the cause, like the cause of gravity, which I showed you early, I had to find the cause of antigravity, which I now know is coming from dipoles.

What are dipoles?

Dipoles, positive pole, negative pole, north pole, south pole, two poles of opposite charge, magnetic or electrostatic.

These things actually emit a very, very weak linear gravitational field system.

In other words, in the north pole, it's got a slightly attractive force, but it's linear, it's going into the magnet, it's going into the charge.

And as it gets to the middle, it then goes out of the charge and becomes antigravity.

So then I set up experiments to detect that using magnets.

And I did detect it.

I have hundreds of measurements where if you put the magnet facing north of the north pole up, it weighs less when you turn it on.

It literally gets lighter.

Does that take a tricky doing to measure that?

Yeah, you got to be able to measure to a thousandth of a gram.

And so I bought a nice expensive scale.

And I rigged it up, but you can't put the magnet too close to the scale, because the magnetic field will react with the circuitry and react with the plate, and actually pull down and become heavier than it is.

So you have to raise it way above with a non-magnetic material.

I use Legos.

It's a marketing scheme.

It's going to pay off.

Yeah, exactly.

You'll see.

I hope so, for sure.

Hundreds of measurements and the magnet weighs less when the power is on.

Now, what's interesting is, what happens when you flip the power around and the south pole is up and the north pole is down?

What do you think happens?

Well, if it goes in as gravity and comes out as anti-gravity, would it be anti both ways?

Yeah, the anti-gravity is on the top part, and the attractive part is on the bottom now, right?

Right.

So you would think it would become heavier than normal.

In other words, instead of getting a negative number, loss of weight, it would get a positive number.

Is that similar to when you take down?

Right.

Is that at all similar when you take two magnets and flip it upside down, where you get like that...

That they push each other away?

Yeah, they push against each other, and you get kind of like a...

That's the magnetic field that causes that attraction and repulsion.

This experiment is taking that out of the equation.

Okay.

We don't want that effect causing the magnet to go up and down, so I have to do various types of measurements, like flipping it and seeing what happens.

Okay.

Normally, a person would say, oh, I bet you it gets heavier.

Sure.

Now that makes sense, yeah.

And you know what happened?

It got lighter, I'm sure.

It did.

Yeah.

But not as light as the other way.

Really?

And that's exactly what Thomas Townsend Brown found for the electrostatic capacitors.

When the north pole, the plot, the positive pole was up.

There was more thrust, it was going up.

When he switched it, it was still, there was still any gravity there, so it was still lighter.

But not as much because the thrusting mechanism, it's going this way, is now pointing down.

So, he argued for years that that was a true anti-gravity effect.

Now, I've seen the same exact thing with the magnets.

So, the dipole theory is looking really good.

Dipoles create this anti-gravity effect.

And all you have to do is increase the power to the magnet or the capacitor, and that thrusting and that weight loss becomes more and more, until that thing levitates.

Wow.

It's just that simple.

But, our government has been expert at steering people away from that idea.

They did it with Thomas Townsend Brown, and they'll probably try to do it with this.

But I'm doing a lot of experiments, and so I'm dissecting this.

I'm preparing that presentation.

It'll be like a court trial.

I'm going to weave a web of truth and evidence around this, that nobody's going to be able to undo.

I intend to prove it for sure.

That's awesome.

When I get done, everybody's going to know how to make an anti-gravity craft.

It's really quite simple.

Powerful magnets or powerful capacitors with high voltage.

Either you need to use high voltage or high magnets.

Magnets is tougher because it takes a lot of current, maybe megawatts to make a UFO that's strong enough to levitate and fly at greater than light speed.

But the electrostatic one, that's very doable.

Much lower power, higher energy.

It's all about the energy in the field.

Right.

Magnetic field has energy in it.

So does the electrostatic field.

We could easily create and that's why I say Tesla.

As are he did notice something because he did, he worked with very high voltages.

And that's what you need in order to see the effect.

So that's how any gravity works.

That's the mechanism.

I've just described the mechanism that actually causes space to come apart.

Because what happens is when you create this dipole, you have the lines of force.

If you look at magnet pictures where they show the lines coming out, going around, that's real.

The only problem is when I discovered this and I looked at it, the lines of force are going in the wrong direction.

I said, they got the pole, the lines coming out of the north pole.

That shouldn't be, that can't be right.

I'm confused now.

So I had to stop what I was doing, hit the books and determine how did you come up with the lines of force, the directions.

It's important here.

So I went all the way back to Benjamin Franklin.

He's the first one to guess the current flow direction.

He thought electricity came from the positive pole and went to the negative pole.

He guessed wrong.

So the next 150 years, everybody based their knowledge and computing the lines of force and directions based on the current flow going in the wrong direction.

So that made the lines of force incorrect, which now makes my theory work because in my theory, the lines of force are going in at the north pole and coming out at the south pole, and that makes the theory work.

So I fixed the mistake that our physicist friends, one amongst many things they did wrong and got this theory working and on the ground.

So it made sense.

So I knew immediately they screwed up and had to go back through the history books and pin them down on this.

If you reverse the direction, do the lines of force change?

And finally, I got them to me.

Well, yeah, we thought about changing it, but it was a convention.

And we said, well, it doesn't really matter.

It just makes one thing.

Yeah.

Everybody's using it and it doesn't really affect anything.

So what's the big deal?

The big deal is now, the new theory is you need to have the lines of force going in the right direction.

So you can sell, tell which side is attractive and which side is repulsive.

So that fully and completely explains how anti-gravity works.

And it's not that complicated.

It's just we were continually being steered away from that idea by the government, planning physicists to say things about Thomas Townsend Brown and his theory, and it's really ion, ion wind that's causing his lift in this.

Because he was making demos and they were working.

And they had to explain why this thing was levitating somehow without letting people on board with the idea that it's actually anti-gravity, which it really was.

So here's what I got to ask you.

Mark, let's say you get your Atticus Finch moment, right?

And nobody knows who Atticus Finch is, his great character in Cape Fear.

But, right, was it Cape Fear?

No, it was, what am I thinking?

Cape Fear?

Yeah, I was thinking of something else.

To Kill a Mockingbird, thank you.

Well, it still was very peck though, wasn't it?

Yeah, but that's an actor.

That's not fair.

Yeah, I know.

Anyway, yes, to Kill a Mockingbird.

But let's say you get your moment, you're there.

You have effectively, probably, proven how UFOs work, per se.

At least one of the going theories, because anybody who, well, I shouldn't say anybody.

A lot of people who are experiencers often say these things moved at great speed and made zero noise, right?

So, if you have that, and it's like a loaded gun, you've got that magic bullet now that proves so many different forms of being able to have propulsion without sound, without thrust.

Is it your intent to, because I know what the government is going to do, if that's truly discovered, they're going to want to keep that from normal folks like ourselves, because if I get something like that, I'm going to launch us into the sky.

I know us, but what do you think will be the, I guess, the outcome of solving that sort of thing?

Well, on many shows like this, and I'll say this here as well, US Air Force, if you are listening, and you want me to stop talking about it, just send a couple of colonels or captains or whatever here, we'll have a talk, and if I have to stop, I'll stop.

I know what the alternative is, and that's death by your hands.

Obviously, that's going to stop me, so we don't need to go that far.

If you don't want me, you want to keep this secret, you're hurting yourselves, and you're hurting all humanity, because we need this technology.

So I'm hoping that they're just going to let me go, because I earned this fair and square.

I didn't leak this from a government group that I was working with, and I figured it all out on my own, just like any regular physicist would do, even though I'm not a physicist.

I just managed to work it out.

And I'm hoping that we're getting close to a disclosure time.

And if I don't hear anything, I'm going to assume that they want me to keep talking about this, or they don't mind.

So until that day comes, when they let me know to stop, I'll keep talking.

So there's the announcement.

You've heard me say it again.

If you want me to stop, just come by and let me know.

I'm a reasonable man.

Otherwise, I'm going to continue my research, I'm going to continue my work, and I'm going to complete the Unified Field Theory.

Because once I've rolled in these two new aspects, which is gravity two, which is coming out of the north of the positive pole, it's a linear type of gravity, a longitudinal wave, and anti-gravity, which is also linear coming out of the other pole.

Once I've added those two aspects, electrostatic field, the magnetic field, anti-gravity, gravity two, gravity one, all of those merge and are aspects of the single fundamental field.

The Unified Field Theory, as I've redefined it, will now be complete.

I will have all the equations which I'm working on now.

Don't stop me now because I'm very close to getting the magneto-gravitic formulas, and it's soon after that I will have the electro-gravitic.

Because again, there's a pattern in the formulas.

When you see the pattern, you know how to do the math.

For sure.

It's just a matter, I write the programs, I write the simulators, I test it, I run it, I get the right results, I know it's working.

Like I just released the paper for the cause of particle motion, which is a thing I call the slip wave.

It's the same mechanism.

It's a dipole of photon, the particle of light is a dipole.

And so it uses the same mechanism that aliens use to build anti-gravity crafts.

So the slip wave, we must model our warp drive field after the photon.

Because what moves faster in the particle of photon?

Nothing.

It's the fastest, most efficient moving object in the universe.

So like Wright brothers studied the birds, and Da Vinci studied the birds to make crafts, flying crafts.

I studied the photon particle, so that, and I'm sure that our buddies in outer space, that are millions of years ahead of us, did the same thing eons ago, to figure out how to build an interstellar spacecraft.

Because not only can you go up to the speed of light, using the slip wave technology, you can break the light speed barrier.

Because you just pull space apart when you're inside of the slip wave.

That gravity and the anti-gravity field are actually a rotation and are causing space to expand within that space, which drops permittivity and permeability, which then allows an increase for the speed of light.

And everything is in place now to explain and develop a starship.

We have the knowledge, if you put all my papers together, read them all and understand them, you have everything you need to build a warp drive.

Nice.

Okay, so I got to ask, Kirk or Picard, which one are you?

Are you a Kirk guy or are you a Picard guy?

No, I'm neither one.

I'm, remember the episode where they found the guy on a planet by himself who invented the warp drive?

What was his name?

Oh yeah.

Hold on, hold on.

I've got this.

Yeah, Jordy LaForge was talking to him.

Oh gosh, it was in first contact, wasn't it?

Right, that's the guy.

Okay, okay.

That guy was fun.

He actually had a little bit of fun at the local pub, but he liked rock and roll and he would have a good time.

Hey, when I do my experiments, I play 80s music.

Nice.

I love it.

We're Generation X, so we're right there with you.

Okay, so you've got a starship and we're going warp speed now.

If we have that kind of technical capability, and obviously you're saying that that is something that we should be able to do here in short order.

Oh, we've already done it.

Right.

And that's always the thing I've thought too.

I think that we've, whether it's been government or not, with things like the warp, you know, not warp speed, I'm thinking of in Skinwalker Ranch.

What am I thinking?

The porthole?

The portal?

Yeah, the portal.

Not the porthole.

The porthole.

That's a ship, by the way.

But the portal of them moving back and forth, I have a feeling that we've been able to at least get our hands or wrapped our head around that particular type of technology.

But with that in mind, do you think that, because obviously that would have a profound effect on everything, you know, military would not be the same, people would not be the same, to know that we have the kind of, well, Star Trek capability to go from here to wherever, you know, there is no end to destination, and there's not a real need for propulsion, so you don't have to worry about gas or anything like that.

Do you foresee in the future that humanity will, not just, I don't necessarily say leave the Earth, but humanity will sort of go to other places and expand through the universe?

I would.

The first thing I do is build drones and send them off.

You'd have to devise a system where the drone knows where it is, in deep space, some sort of star chart thing, and that's computer stuff that can be done, written programs, get the positions, calculate everything else versus the speed, so it knows how to get home again.

You can't really use radio wave signals because they're way too slow.

Right.

So if you go 4.2 years, let's say we go to Proxima Centauri, 4.2 light years away, and we want to send a control signal to come home.

Let's sit in there waiting.

It's going to wait 4.2 years before it gets, if it could even get it that far away, and then start come home within 15, 20 minutes.

But 4.2 years waiting, you can't use remote control for that stuff.

It's got to be all built into the system, so that it can navigate there, take its pictures, measure the atmosphere, come back.

So the first thing I would do is send out loads of drones to the nearest 1,000 planets, and they're plotting them every day now.

They've discovered thousands of planets.

So, you go to all the nearby 1s, and you find 1 that's got an atmosphere similar to us, and that's where you send your first mission to.

That's how I do it.

I mean, I got to believe they've done this.

Yeah, I do too, honestly.

It's a shame they're keeping it secret from us, but I've noticed certain little things, like the Mars rovers.

Yeah, you look at the pictures, and it takes a picture of itself every once in a while.

And after a while, it gets all dusty and dirty.

And I say, you know, there's all those dust storms on Mars.

And all of a sudden, a year or so later, it's perfectly clean.

Well, how did that happen?

There's no rain there.

How did the Mars rover's solar cells get cleaned?

That's a good point.

I think somebody went there and cleaned.

How did the Mars rover get fixed so many times?

Broke down, went dead.

Suddenly, a month later, it's working again.

I think we got our guys going over there.

Replacing parts, doing stuff, cleaning it.

Right.

I mean that.

Yeah, I would have never picked that up.

No.

That's a really good point.

Well, if we're able to do that kind of non-propulsion travel, theoretically, they could be there and back by the end of the day, you know.

With a slip wave spatial bias drive, you can get to Mars easily under 15 minutes.

Right.

Wow.

If you're going at or near the speed of light or just slowly behind, it doesn't take long to get there.

Right.

I think the whole point that's what the application that's so has such great utility, is that it's useful in real time so that we can, you know, all these distances can now be traversed in a matter of minutes instead of years, months, years or whatever.

It was by design that this was able to happen.

It's to me, this smacks of intelligent design.

Right.

Because if you don't, if you can't do this, you're stuck on that planet until the end of that planet or the end of your race.

There's no hope for ever going and exploring other parts of the universe.

There has to be a way to do that, and it has to have been built in by the designer right off the get go.

He says, when you advance to a certain level, you're going to discover this technology.

And by the way, the creator is helping each race do that through guardian spirits, whatever you want to call them, spirit guides, whatever.

People are sent down with the job to do this at this time when you're ready.

And then we get to go to other worlds.

Although I would imagine that our brothers and sisters in the universe are not all that anxious for us to do it.

Yeah.

Because what are we going to do?

We're going to say, manifest destiny.

We're taking it whether you want or not.

And by the way, we got ten nukes on board either.

I don't blame the aliens not wanting us to have this technology either.

Yeah.

I would venture to say that the moment we have this technology, first of all, I think first contact is done.

They're going to come and kind of like with that particular movie that we talked about, they're going to show up and go, okay, now you guys have graduated into a much bigger part of the pie.

And if you're going to go into being able to traverse the universe this way, then these are the guidelines.

And if you don't, we're going to have a really, really bad day here on this planet.

That's my opinion.

That's what I think would happen.

I think that we're throttled.

We're probably not allowed to leave the solar system.

Sure.

But I don't know that for sure.

If I were them, that's what I would make some sort of treaty and say, all right, you got the technology, but you better not use it to come visit us.

Right.

Yeah.

We don't trust you.

And they shouldn't.

No.

We're the most dangerous group out there.

Not them.

No.

We are.

So far, we've only proven that.

Let's hope it changes at some point.

You know, you mentioned Spirit Guides and things like that.

What is your, being a man of a lot of scientific background, what's your belief structure with that and how it pertains to what you studied?

Okay.

Repeat that again?

There was a part I missed.

Yeah.

So you spoke a little bit about Spirit Guides and the Creator and things like that.

I guess what I'm asking is, what is your belief structure?

And if that's too far into the personal part, let me know.

But kind of how it impacts.

I'm often really interested in folks who are very scientific minded and kind of the correlation with belief systems and spirituality.

What is, if you don't mind sharing, what's yours and how does that impact?

Or, I guess, enhance your scientific part of you?

Well, I am a person who believes in intelligent design.

There's no doubt in my mind that's the way it is.

So many near-death people have come back and describe God telling them.

Like Father Rick Wendell, who's on my site, there's a video.

He talks to God and God tells him, all of this three-dimensional world is within God.

There is nothing outside of God.

Everything within this physical universe has to correspond to laws, and God set those laws.

They are immutable as God is immutable.

None of this what we see and experience is an accident, is intentioned by God, and I use those words in my book.

In certain situations that this was created through the power of intention.

That's how this whole universe gets started.

There's so many books on that topic out there from people that have supposedly talked to aliens and mediums that have talked to angels and guardian angels and other side, and they basically all are saying the exact same thing when it comes to this.

You not only created the earth, but the entire universe.

And oh, by the way, there's other universes and other dimensions.

You created all those too.

And God is an infinitely powerful, infinitely intelligent being who is capable of, let's say, there's this one near-death guy, he said, when I was there, I was able to see every grain of sand on every planet, everywhere, and I knew its purpose, and I knew its composition and its position.

I knew everything about every grain of sand, everywhere in the universe.

And God works the same way.

All the grains of sand, all the atoms, all the people, all the plants, everything are at the center of God's attention all the time.

There is nothing unknown.

So I'm a universalist in a way, and I believe there's a philosophy, I want to say pantheism, but I'm not quite sure that that's right.

That basically is a belief that God is in everything, everywhere.

And I think that means God exists in and is the same as things, animals.

Yeah.

So I guess pantheists is right.

I don't believe in many gods, but the one god is really, in fact, all the gods.

And there's cases.

And what I mean by that is there's a near-death experience where three men were hit by lightning, and they all died at the same time.

And one was a Christian, one was a Muslim, and one was a Hindu.

They all went up the tunnel together.

They had their near-death experience.

They talked to the light.

And each one, as they looked at the other guy, could see, I'm seeing a Christian version of God.

This guy is seeing like Krishna or something, and this guy is seeing the Well of Souls.

They're all looking at each other and saying, you're seeing it looking that way, and I'm seeing it looking that.

So God is presenting himself as any way that you're comfortable with from your previous incarnation so that you don't get freaked out.

So these three guys were revived.

They all came back and said the exact same story.

So that confirms that they had a real valid near-death experience, and nobody else has ever done that where they've shared and have the same story to tell.

So God is universal.

If you talk to the aliens, I'm sure they're aware of God, and they look at him as universal.

But the one difference that I have from Einstein, Einstein didn't believe in a personal God.

I know for sure there is a personal God.

In other words, he cares about you and me and everybody else, everywhere, and that's the big difference between Einstein.

Einstein believed in the God.

He just believed he created the universe and then just went off and did something else.

He's not bothered by all the personal people and our problems.

And he is, they hear every prayer everywhere throughout the universe.

And that's just the way it is.

That's the bigger picture.

The sooner we learn that and know it for sure, the faster we will evolve and the happier we will be.

It's just a matter of getting everybody on board, especially the scientists, because they think they know what's true and what's real, and they're clueless.

They're worse than people that are around 150 years ago.

And they're primitive in their thinking, but this, we believe in the scientific method.

Well, that's good up to a point.

Right.

But we're going beyond that point.

We're going to the very foundation of reality, and the scientific method is not enough.

Well, I can't really think of any better way to put a capstone on it than that.

Yeah, that's a good ending.

That's amazing.

You know, our audience obviously is going to more than likely want to have a chance to reach out to you, and obviously there's the book, and there are other ways of reaching out to you.

Can you kind of give them an idea where they can find you?

Yeah, I'm at www.superrelativity.com, superrelativity.com, and I have links, buttons on the front page where you can go directly to Amazon, buy the book, or you could go to my page.

If you're living in the United States, you can get a signed copy from my website and I'll mail it to you.

There's links to two out of my three papers there on ResearchGate.

There's a blog and my YouTube page.

Please go and subscribe to my YouTube page.

I'm trying to get that thing going.

All right.

It's a lot tougher than people give credit for.

But yeah, we'll-

I'll make sure and put the links to your book and all those site on our Facebook whenever this comes out.

Right.

They can find you.

That's fantastic.

Well, listen, Mark, it's been great.

Thank you for sitting down with us, kind of giving us-

I know there's so much more out there.

Folks, if you're listening, if you're watching, excuse me, I'm choked up about it.

Please go out and pick up Mark's book.

Yeah.

Let's go out there, go out to his YouTube page, give him your undivided attention.

Stuff's fantastic.

But Mark, thank you so much for sitting down with us.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

I appreciate you guys having me on the show.

Thank you.

Absolutely.

We'll see you soon.

Okay.

That was a lot of information.

Lots of information.

Yeah.

And honestly, I hope for Mark's sakes, he is found right because he would be a very, very popular man.

Yeah, no kidding.

I mean, to solve things like that, anti-gravity and all these sort of things.

I mean, it sounds very, very science.

Scientific.

Right.

Well, science fiction too.

Well, yeah.

Yeah.

Of course, the callbacks to Star Trek, I had to throw those in there.

I mean, I'm a nerd.

It is what it is.

Yes, we all know.

I lean into it.

But guys, tell us what you think.

I mean, did you enjoy that?

Again, it's a little bit different than what we normally do.

A little bit more science involved in that.

But I think in order to understand the paranormal, I think you also have to understand a bit of the science behind it.

We've had multiple guests tell us that everything is science-based.

Absolutely.

To be able to explain the paranormal, you have to know science.

That's right.

Which in my case, that's tough.

It's not great.

Every time we say science, I keep thinking of God, name escapes me and breaking bad.

Jesse Pinkman.

Oh yeah.

Well, yeah.

Science and you know what follows.

If you know, you know.

But other than that, guys, thank you so much and.

Generation X Paranormal.