The Ghosts of Penyffordd Farm

Dive into the shadowy corners of Wales with Logan and Nicole in this haunting episode of Generation X Paranormal, as they explore the eerie legacy of Penyffordd Farm. Nestled in the Welsh countryside, this ancient site is reputed to host spectral figures and unexplained phenomena linked to its centuries-old history. Featuring engaging interviews with local historians and chilling encounters from those who have witnessed the farm’s spectral residents, this episode offers a deep dive into the mystery that shrouds Penyffordd. Uncover the tales that have chilled the bones of locals and puzzled even the staunchest skeptics. Are you ready to cross the threshold into a past that refuses to die? Join us on a journey where the echoes of history reverberate with every step.

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This week, on Generation X Paranormal.

First of all, I don't know if it's the same there as it is here in the States, but I'm sure it isn't.

Don't you go through like a walkthrough before you buy a home and kind of get a, anyway.

Well, I would assume so.

Yeah, well, what they found, I would have think you had found on a walkthrough, but they found a gravestone, and it was leaning up against the house.

Generation X Paranormal.

Well, hey, everybody, welcome back.

Hey, everybody.

For Generation X Paranormal, I'm Logan.

And I'm Nicole.

You know, it is, at the time of recording, it is October 3rd, right, right around there?

Yeah.

It's fricking hot, people.

I mean, literally, it felt like July today.

Yeah, it did, it was pretty hot.

Awful.

I mean, it is what it is.

I still have tomatoes growing.

Yeah, we've got, she's, I don't say we, Nicole has.

Yes, I have tomatoes growing.

But yeah, it's October.

We live in Missouri, by the way, guys, and it should not be this warm.

No, typically.

I mean, we're still in the mow.

Yeah, we have to mow in October.

Anyway, let's go from the hot of Missouri right now and let's take a little jump over to Wales.

Now, listen, we've got listeners and people who watch our show that are from Wales.

Guys, I'm so sorry if I mispronounce things.

Yes, apologies.

Let us know in the comments how it's actually pronounced.

We're going to do our best.

Now, what we're going to bring up is interesting because a lot of Americans probably, I shouldn't say a lot, but my guess is-

There's a few probably.

Yeah, there's a few that do, but my guess is most don't know.

That there's kind of like, for the lack of the big killing and murders, but there's sort of like a well-known like Amityville type haunted house, I should say.

Now, again, it doesn't have the big DeFeo killings or anything like that, but still, it's very well-known, especially in England and in Wales and the UK.

So what we're talking about is Penyffordd Farms.

Now, there is somebody currently living there, so it's still a residential home.

As I understand it, there's no access to investigate it.

That's what I understand as well.

Nobody really knows.

Yeah, but it's just...

I actually reached out to a couple paranormal teams that are from Wales, and they're like, no, we've never investigated it.

Yeah, that's just wild.

Yeah.

But, you know, that makes sense, especially if there's somebody living there.

But anyway, Penyffordd Farm, it translates as highest or furthest point in the road, and that's in Welch.

So as we mentioned, it's in Wales, but it's near Mold in Flintshire.

Again, hope I'm saying that right.

And it's a 15th-century farmhouse, but it looks really cool and we're going to have pictures for anybody listening.

If you want to check it out, it's going to be in the video as well.

Now, it is coined UK's most haunted.

Now, they say there's 300 paranormal occurrences.

That's a lot.

That is a lot.

That's a heck of a lot of activity.

Now, the Gower family, they're from England.

Okay, so they're not from Wales.

But in 1987, the Gower family, or 97, thank you.

So 1997, the Gower family, David, the headmaster and chemist, Rosemary and children, John, Paul, Adrian and Nicolette.

Hey, look at that, Nicolette.

So they moved in in 1997.

Yes, gotta get it right.

Yeah, but when they got there, they found definitely something that I would immediately find unnerving.

Yeah, I would too.

First of all, I don't know if it's the same there as it is here in the States, but I'm sure it isn't.

Don't you go through like a walkthrough before you buy a home and kind of get a look?

Anyway.

Well, I would assume so.

Yeah.

Well, what they found, I would have think you had found on a walkthrough, but they found a gravestone.

And it was leaning up against the house.

That's kind of like red flag number one.

Well, they would have seen it.

Right.

I mean, that's, yeah.

Anyway, what's interesting is it had a name and it was Jane Jones.

Now, it also said died at, or died in 1778 and at the age of 15.

And we've got pictures of it, so we'll put it up.

We'll put that up there.

That's gonna be important here shortly.

Yeah.

So what can you tell us at least about the history of it?

So someone, I don't know who this is, but I guess historical records, okay, they looked up the area, show that there was a Jane Jones in the area.

They can't link her to the place or to the grounds, but she did die at 15.

So that would put it, and it says on the gravestone, 15.

Right.

Okay.

They're assuming that she died in childbirth and was denied a church burial because she was unmarried.

Man, that's rough.

Yes.

Yeah.

So these historical records that they found showed that this Jane was born to a Morgan and Mary Jones in 1763 and was buried in a field in 1778.

But nobody knows where this field is.

I'm going to assume this field is by the house or maybe.

The house is on it.

Well, no.

I mean, because when it was built, it's a 15th century house.

So I would guess it's probably in the field.

And who knows, the stone could have fell over or something.

They just picked it up and moved it.

Or, you know, if they're farming, it's a farm.

They're farming the land.

Yeah.

They're going to move that stone because they don't want to have to cut around it or.

That's true.

If they're planting, who knows?

Man, that's just, first of all, and this is going to be important, but that's very disturbing for resting souls.

Well, yeah.

I mean, you just triggered something.

Yeah, that's something I wouldn't normally do.

No, but you know, who knows when it was moved?

I know one thing, if I'd have seen it, we'd be moving.

Yeah.

Well, it's actually really sad.

To me, I don't know that I'd be moving.

I'd be helping.

Oh, well, yeah, of course, yeah.

You'd be moving, but I would be helping.

I would be.

You're more terrified of that stuff than I am.

I'm more skeptical too, but.

You are.

But anyway.

You are.

Okay.

So the mom.

I'm going to try to keep all these names straight.

Okay.

So Rosemary is the mom.

Okay.

Okay.

She claimed that she saw an apparition.

Apparition.

I'll get that right.

Okay.

Of a pregnant girl wandering through the garden of the property and was seen on the patio.

I think this is before they found out about the historical records before somebody went and researched.

Well, that's interesting, right?

That's just slightly on the nose.

This is the thing that would freak me.

This honestly would freak me out.

This is the part.

Okay.

So they started seeing Welsh words and I remember their English.

They didn't know the Welsh language, okay?

The family did not.

So they started seeing Welsh words carved into their walls, including which I can't even say it.

Okay.

So it's Tengnifed.

It's probably not how it's, but it means religious peace.

Okay.

Okay.

And here, a rose.

Okay.

Which means long suffering.

And this is the fun one.

Ir le diaw?

Diaw?

I don't know.

Anyway, but it means persecution.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Okay.

So they didn't speak any Welsh.

Yeah, that's weird.

And they would just appear.

Yeah, that's...

Like out of nowhere.

Yeah.

First of all, if you don't speak the language and things start showing up, I mean, you're not even sure that is a language, you know?

So you're just kind of like...

Well, what's interesting is that they said that the words didn't look carved into the wall, that they were like indented.

Like you would take something and press it into the wall.

Okay.

To make the indentation of the letters, but not carved with like a knife or something.

Be interesting to know what it was made of.

Yeah, I don't know for sure.

And a lot of this looks like the fireplace, so I mean, if they had like...

Like rock?

Yeah, like the...

What's the really soft rock that you can kind of like just scrape the sandstone?

Well, sandstone is very...

Yeah.

But I don't know that you'd have sandstone there.

I don't know.

I don't know.

They said also that some of the words appeared behind the radiator.

Oof.

And then like a word would appear and then it would disappear.

Like it'd be there and then it'd be gone.

And that's interesting.

If it's behind a radiator, that means that the radiator came after, potentially those words were put there.

Well, no, they're saying that they would just appear behind the radiator.

Right.

Oh, I see what you're saying.

Okay.

But it would be difficult what they're...

I think what they're implying, so it would be difficult to get back there, to carve something, to fake it basically.

That makes sense.

Okay.

So that's kind of weird.

And then the next thing, the name Jane appeared on the wall with Help Me.

Yeah.

And that actually breaks my heart.

Like, that really is sad.

Yeah, because you know, you got to think at this girl, well, she obviously, she existed, and if she died at 15, no matter what the circumstances are, you know, it's...

Yeah.

Well, look at the words, religious peace, long suffering.

So if she was, and they denied her a church, and she was probably persecution, persecuted for what happened.

She's been suffering a long time.

She wants some religious peace.

So she wants peace from, you know, her religion.

Okay.

So she feels like maybe she's scared to move on, that she's going to go to hell or something like that.

Like she wants freedom from that.

Yeah, I mean, that actually just makes me really sad.

Yeah, that sucks.

You know, you hate to hear that about the soul.

Yeah.

So this, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, it's so terrifying.

It's such a scary case.

To me, it's just a sad case.

Like that's what I get from this whole thing.

And we will continue.

There's more, but it just makes me, I don't know.

Now, objects around the house would move.

Okay.

Okay.

That's a typical.

Poltergeist.

Well, not necessarily poltergeist.

Just, you know, pay attention to me.

Yeah.

Trying to get your attention is what I take from it.

Sure.

Now, the youngest daughter, Adrian, woke up screaming one night.

And this is a quote from her.

She said, I was asleep and woke up and felt this presence of something standing over me.

And I say it was a monk.

Hmm.

This is 1997.

So it's not like there's a ton of stuff that you would remember what a monk looks like.

So it's not like a long time ago.

So someone that's that young may not even know what the heck that is.

Right.

I mean, now they did have monasters.

And like here, it'd be weird to see a monk, right?

For sure.

You don't, that doesn't really come up a lot.

No.

In investigations.

However, in the UK and Ireland, places like that, these ancient places that did have a lot of cathedrals and monks, but they also had something else, which I think half of the time, people are thinking it's a monk when it's not a monk.

I think it's more like druids or something like that.

Because they would wear, we assume, they wore the long-

Right.

Like a robe or something.

Cowl thing.

Yeah.

So if it's tied to the land, I mean, there could be multiple things going on.

If it's tied to the land, maybe they're not seeing a monk.

Maybe it is.

Now, it could be, and I did find out that there is a, like an old ancient church close to this place.

So it is very possibly a monk.

I just don't want to automatically assume it's always a monk.

Right.

Yeah.

To have it standing over your bed, there's very few things that, you know, I like, look, we're big in a paranormal.

We do the whole ghost stuff and I would say, so we have a podcast about it.

It is true.

But having something in that, in your bedroom when you're sleeping, because that's, you're so vulnerable, you know?

Yeah.

That to me is like at the pinnacle of fear for me.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Yeah.

Now, Rosemary, this is the mom, remember?

Okay.

This is a quote from her.

She said, one day, I was moving some dried flowers that had started to look a bit manky.

I don't know what that means.

Probably, you know, decaying.

Sure.

Droopy.

Droopy and they're, yeah, wilting, basically.

So I decided to throw them away.

Okay.

Okay.

I took them from the lounge to the kitchen and put them on the counter, dropping petals all the while.

Somebody came to the door and it was about 30 seconds.

And when I came back, every single petal had disappeared.

They had been replaced by dead or dying, half-drowned wasps.

What?

There was no sign of a wasp nest and all of the doors and windows were shut.

Inexplicable.

Now here's where it gets a little weird.

Wasp?

Yeah.

So like, you know, you think about Amityville Horror, they talk about all the flies, right?

You know, and that's always associated with an evil presence.

But this time it's wasps.

All the flowers, the petals are gone, replaced by wasps.

Well, so now, guys, can't forgive me here.

I'm not the smartest person when it comes to, to apiurists or bees or anything like that.

But wasps don't pollinate, right?

No.

Okay.

So it wouldn't be, it would be very uncommon for a wasp to be anywhere involved with a flower like that.

I mean, they sometimes go around them, but they're not, yeah, pollinating.

And not something you would immediately associate with the petals of a flower.

No.

And to me, There was no nest.

It was just them.

Right.

And I always think about what the wasp can, not simulate, symbolize rather.

Yeah.

It's aggressive.

It stings.

Yeah.

It seems very, well, it's very odd, that's for sure.

So, of course, Rosemary at this point is getting more freaked out, right?

Sure.

Okay.

So she got a psychologist, which I think is interesting, a psychologist to come in, and he found no rational explanation as to what, I think it's a parapsychologist is what I'm gonna guess.

It was not specified, but that's probably what I'm gonna guess.

That makes sense, yeah.

Because I think she was trying to kind of hide the fact this was going on.

Okay.

You know?

So, okay, I'll get a parapsychologist.

He comes in, nobody's gonna know any different.

Maybe, you know, I just need therapy.

Nobody's gonna know, right?

Okay.

But he didn't find anything.

Like nothing happened while he was there.

That's weird.

So the parents, so Rosemary and the dad, they moved in 2002.

Okay.

Okay.

But the daughter, Nicolette, stayed in the house with her husband.

So she was older at this point, right?

Okay, yeah.

And they had a baby son named Quinn.

Quinn, okay.

Okay.

Now, another carving that appeared on the wall was the name of Quinn.

So it's like the parents moved out and now it's focusing on who's in the house, right?

Yeah.

So they see Quinn and they saw the pregnant girl appear and disappear on the grounds of the farm.

And there was also a sighting of a hooded figure standing over the cot where Quinn was sleeping.

So now it's moved on to the next generation.

Because it's not getting attention from the first one.

So now it's moving to the second.

Wow.

And this is a quote actually from Nicolette.

She said, there were brief moments of children singing and being in the bed and hearing the latch lift.

A pause and the latch would go down again.

I could feel this tension.

There were figures in the corner of your eye.

It was creepy.

Wow.

And remember when we, was it Mike Ricksecker that we interviewed, and I read in his book, I found very interesting that they said something about our eyes and the reason we can see, you know, figures, apparitions from just our peripheral and not straight on is because something about how we, our eye sees different wavelengths or something, and you're more likely to see something from the sides of your eyes and from the front.

I think that was Mike.

I'm not sure.

I think it was, yeah, in his time travel book.

I think he touched on that because I remember talking to you about it.

Yeah, I do.

I was like, that makes a lot of sense.

Because I've never really seen anything.

Well, there's one thing I've seen straight on.

But you do, you think you catch shadows, you think you catch, you think that you've seen something, but then you're just like, no, there was nothing there.

Because when you turn and look at it straight on, it disappears.

Sure.

Well, when you think about just the mechanics of the eye and you got all those cones and everything.

And I would imagine the way that light refracts onto the lens is a whole lot different than what you're seeing straight on.

That's it.

It's an incredibly interesting way of thinking how you could see the ghost or anything paranormal.

Yeah.

Because I've seen a shadow peek around the corner at me.

And when I lifted my head and turned, it disappeared.

But I could see it from the corner of my eye.

So I totally get what she's saying.

Yeah.

I mean, for sure I have to.

I mean, I've seen, like we talked about, I've seen stuff head on and I've definitely seen stuff at the corner of my eye.

You know, I always think the stuff at the corner of your eye are just like, well, that could have been anything.

Yeah.

Well, we're great about talking ourselves out of things, especially me.

Yes.

I'm always the one that's like, yeah, I may or may not have seen something in the corner of my eye, but that's okay.

We'll just keep doing this.

Now, Nicolette's husband, Owen.

Okay.

It is spelled E-W-A-N.

Yes.

Okay.

But it means it's said Owen.

Just in case anybody gets me for that, it is said Owen.

He remembered two occasions when they had this large wooden owl and it moved on its own on two different times.

He said it's not like a tiny little thing.

It was like a big owl.

Big size.

Yeah.

I don't know actually how big, but in the pictures, we've got a picture of it.

We'll put it up.

I think it's about probably at least a foot and a half.

I mean, so it's not like a little tiny trinket type thing.

Okay.

So kind of reminds me like the crown.

I don't think it's like Quinn moving around.

Right.

Well, he's a little baby.

He's not going to be able to pick up some shirt that just move it.

Yeah.

Well, I would think that if it's an older, which we assume it is, an older spirit, ghost, whatever have you, they're going to be more familiar with earth type things, objects like wood, and things that are from their time period, as opposed to like, let's say, there's an iPad sitting there or something, you know?

Yeah.

Well, and the owl, and I can't recall right now, but the owl has a special meaning.

Something's coming your way or something like that.

I can't remember exactly the spiritual.

Okay.

But it does have a spiritual meaning, if you see an owl.

Right.

So maybe they're think, you know, the spirits thinking, okay, this represents something if I focus on this.

Okay.

Yeah.

I mean, I mean, it's a possibility.

Sure.

May not be anything at all.

It's just an object.

And there could be folks that are listening or watching that know what that is.

So by all means, guys, let us know.

So Owen and Nicolette and Quinn decided to move out in 2012.

So this is not, well, I guess it's not his reason.

I always think like 2012 is like, oh, it was just yesterday.

It was yesterday for me.

Yeah.

I mean, it feels that way for me too.

But I mean, it's not like a long, long time ago.

So they moved out and whoever moved in now doesn't believe that it's haunted.

Nothing's happening to them, which leads to, okay, it's another like Amityville horror thing, right?

Did the family make it up?

Did they really experience this stuff?

Was stuff, they making stuff happen.

I mean, you know, this can go back and forth all day.

Yes.

So you want to talk to us about some of the reasons they think.

So here's sort of the fake camp, if you will, and air quotes because whoever's listening is not watching me do this.

So quote, and this is a quote from Rosemary, Rosemary, I should say.

The mom.

The mom.

I'll clarify the map for them.

That's right, sorry.

I think, this is in quote, I think some people thought we were doing it to make money, or to make money out of it.

Well, I assure you, we weren't, end quote.

I mean, that makes sense.

I mean, what are, anyway, I've got something to say to that here.

Now, John Paul has, this is another quote, and this is Rosemary as well, right?

Yeah, this is her talking about her son.

Okay, so she continues, quote, John Paul has Down syndrome and learning difficulties, and I had to look for him, so he was, so I was quite busy, to put it mildly.

We thought somebody was playing silly beggars.

Which I'm guessing is like a term for like they are playing tricks on.

Right, like trick or treat.

Like somebody was breaking in the house and putting the words on the wall.

Yeah.

Doing all these things, right?

Right.

Well, daughter Nicolette, she added, it couldn't have been my siblings because when things happened, they weren't in the house, end quote.

And going on, she said, my parents couldn't have had anything to do with it.

They were in Eastbourne, hundreds of miles away.

I'm guessing this is after they moved.

Right.

After they moved.

She was, you know, the mom and dad.

Right.

And the mom and dad, yeah.

Now, her sister Adrienne admits that she is, she's not one to say that she believes in ghosts, that's quote, but I know what I experienced.

And we never got to the bottom of it.

I mean, that's end quote, by the way.

But that's, it kind of makes you wonder about...

I mean, they're saying that they didn't get any money.

Well, whether they got money or not, I'm not here to say, listen, people have shows, we have shows, some people make money out of it.

You know, money is just sometimes a by-product.

We're using the Amityville as an example.

Sure.

They made money.

They made a lot of money.

The Lutzes made a ton of money.

Whereas this family did not.

I don't see them as the Lutzes at all.

No, I don't either.

I'm just saying, as a lot of people would compare it.

Well, it does.

Because it's a very well-known, haunted house.

Right.

And there's a family claiming all these things happen, and then the next family came in and nothing's happening.

Right.

Right.

It's the same type, kind of situation.

Right.

But the Lutzes made a ton, a ton of money.

Their heirs are still making money.

Yes.

I mean, it's still a thing.

But the thing that I always say is, especially this family, they didn't really stand to gain anything out of this.

They just moved into this house.

They stood more to lose than ever gain.

Yeah.

So why make something like that up?

The dad, what was it?

A chemist.

So he's obviously somebody of good standing, probably in the community.

I mean, you stand to lose so much, especially with the connotations of what some of this stuff brings up around other people.

They think that, well, the guy's losing it or they're lying or something.

So you stand to lose more than you ever stand to gain.

But it's just one of those things.

It's a personal belief of what you think.

They may or may not.

But anyway, Rosemary spoke openly on TV shows and to the press.

So that's where I think the skepticism is coming in is she was like telling everybody about it.

Sure.

Now, but but here's the thing, though.

Yes and no.

Yes, there is attention.

Okay.

But there's also a thing of being a witness of something, right?

You know, and maybe she's just looking for help.

Well, yeah.

And you got to think of what kind of I guess, for lack of better words, what kind of damage that did to her psyche and everything that, you know, that she now has to realize, you know, maybe talking about help.

Well, that's what I think too.

I mean, I mean, we're paranormal podcasters for a reason.

We've had a lot of experiences and talking to all these people and knowing that other people have the same type of stuff happen to them.

It is a cathartic experience.

Very much so.

And if she's looking for help and this is the only way I can get it, then, you know, she had a bunch of kids.

Yeah.

Again, you can make the argument either way.

I get it.

Yeah.

I guess I'm not as quick to...

I'm not either.

No.

But now a chemist, I would imagine, you know, a scientist, or for lack of better words, had a theory.

Now, the words that were appearing on the walls could have been created with writing saltwater and painted over with silver nitrate.

Okay.

So from my understanding, the way that goes is that when light is exposed to it, it sort of has this like ghostly kind of background, right?

Now, the interesting thing with that is the father.

Was a chemist.

So he would know about this whole process.

Right.

Now, again, he would have had it gotten behind the radiator.

Okay.

Right.

And the words, and this did not come from them.

I think this was from the one or maybe a couple people, like right after that got to actually investigate the house, said that the words were indented.

They were not carved.

And if you're writing...

Oh, you're carving.

You're carving.

For sure.

Yeah.

It's almost like something got pressed and not etched.

Wouldn't they test that for like chemicals and stuff like that?

Wouldn't they be able to tell if there's...

Well, sure.

I mean, silver nitrate is going to show.

I mean, saltwater wouldn't necessarily...

Silver nitrate, for sure.

Yeah.

At least as far as I know.

But again...

And to me, I saw the pictures.

They don't look ghostly.

I mean, they just look like words.

I don't know if it's...

I think, you know, a lot of people, like, want to disprove things.

And so I'm like, oh, well, it looks so ghostly.

Right.

It just looked like words to me.

Yeah.

I mean, unless it's like...

It wasn't glowing and like a smoker mist coming off.

I'm thinking about Lord of the Rings ring where it lights up and it's like the ring, one ring to rule them all.

Yeah.

You know, it's like, come on, seriously.

But the other thing is, this is a dad, you know, sorry to scratch my head.

This is a dad who doesn't want to scare the crap out of his kids and his family.

So why would he, again?

Well, they would have had to all been in on it is the thing.

That's too much of a buy-in.

This is the thing with the kids saying that they saw this monk standing, you know, Adrian, standing over her bed.

A kid is not quick to lie like that.

No.

Or even told to lie.

I mean, you can tell when a kid's lying.

Yeah.

Most of the time.

I'll say most of the time.

But I mean, they would come clean with people.

I think so.

It would be hard for them to carry on this whole story, I think.

Yeah.

And it would be, especially for as long as they...

Because, you know, this was obviously 20 years ago or so.

I mean, I think their story is still pretty sound.

Yeah.

I think that even as adults, they say the same thing.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I just...

I feel like maybe it's jumping the gun a little bit.

Yeah.

But you have to put it out there because it is a fact.

Right.

So now American film directors wanted to make a movie, but after hearing how they wanted to make the film, the family said, no way.

Go away.

Goodbye.

I find that interesting.

This is a quote.

They were going to make up a load of stuff based on a true story and it was going to be ridiculous.

I would not ever sanction that.

You either have a true story or you don't have it at all.

That right there proves to me exactly.

Because if they were after money, you know how much money they would have made from an American film company making a movie about them.

I mean, they would have actually been the Lutzes at that point, at least in that sense.

Yeah.

That right there just like I'm done.

Right.

So this is in the age of-

If you had a true paranormal experience and you just want people to know what happened, and you're not making it up, you are going to tell them to go away because you know that they're going to twist your story into some big-

At this time, I don't know what year this was, but this is already late 90s, early 2000s, early 2000s.

I mean, so you know what they're going to do to it.

Well, for sure.

Not to mention that it's all about, especially nowadays, intellectual property.

You got the big Marvel cinematic universes and the conjuring.

Anyway, there's all these big multiple movies, contracts.

They're going to make a fortune if they were to do it.

Oh, yeah.

So for them to turn all that down, that tells me they're telling the truth, in our opinion.

Yes.

Now, I said that tells me, I didn't say everyone.

Because I agree with you.

Yes.

I said our opinion.

Yes.

She's going to kill me on that one, by the way.

So paranormal.

So there's this paranormal investigator, and I'm going to say her name.

Well, she was a reporter.

Yes, that's right.

She was a reporter.

And her name, I understand, I think is called Sean Ellery.

Now, if I'm wrong, guys, please tell me.

Don't beat me up too much about it.

But she did go through it.

And we didn't get to see the movie or the documentary.

We couldn't find it.

Yeah, we did.

Now, from what I understand, she sees the girl, I think, from the gravestone, doesn't she?

I don't know.

At least that's what some of the trailers kind of portrayed.

Yeah.

So anyway, there is something out there that you can watch.

If you can find a way, let us know because we really want to see that.

Well, it's called Paranormal, The Girl, The Ghost and The Gravestones.

Okay.

Yeah, that's right.

And the only way is like this BBC player.

And we couldn't find any way to access it.

Like I would have paid to watch it.

But all you can find on YouTube is the trailer for it, which if that's what you want to go see, you can look the trailer up for free.

But I couldn't actually find the documentary because it would have been really interesting because she was actually able to go in and investigate and look stuff up.

And I think that's what I assume she saw it.

I don't know.

But again, it's in the trailer.

Yeah, you can't really tell that sometimes they hype that stuff up to get you to watch it.

But there are some interesting facts about the home.

Yeah.

Well, the land.

The land.

So this is something that I've gotten really interested in as of late, because I'm learning more and more.

And there are some Paranormal investigators that we follow, that kind of try to focus on this stuff.

And it's fascinating to me.

And it's something that you may have heard of before.

Maybe not.

But the property of the farm, okay?

And we're just talking about the property, not the house itself, because the house came much later than the land.

So there is a river that runs pretty close to where this property is.

Okay.

Okay.

Which again, running water.

Running water provides energy, right?

And it is the river Alyn, okay?

It's a tributary of the river D that runs near the farm.

Okay.

Okay.

Now, the river at some point, and I tried to figure out exactly where it does this, but I couldn't tell in correlation to where the farm is, where this happens.

But the river disappears underground.

For part of its course.

Gotcha.

So it goes underground and comes back up.

Okay.

Now, they call it the Alyn Gorge, okay?

Okay.

That water runs through a section of carboniferous limestone.

Oh, limestone.

Now, what do we know about limestone?

Very similar.

In the paranormal.

Right.

So the understanding is that it records, well, it's a recorder.

It basically can act like a voice recorder, can act like a movie, a movie recorder.

Video camera.

Video camera.

So it's able to record events within it.

And that is incredibly interesting because you find that in a lot of hotspots.

The Stanley's built on, I think, quartz.

And there are other places where this is found with granite, quartz, limestone.

The Crescent Hotel as well.

And I'm also wondering, is limestone hard or soft?

Because the words where they are, it looks like the fireplace is made out of some kind of stone or-

I don't know.

If it's a softer stone.

I think it might be.

And that would be easier.

I mean, if you think about when they built the house, they had to get something local, right?

Right.

And if that gorge is close to where the farm is, they could have cut that out and brought it up to the house.

It's sort of saying what is a soft stone.

It says limestone, by the way, I Googled it.

So those who are listening, it says that limestone is generally a soft rock that can be easily scratched.

There you go.

Because you can tell it's not just the wall, like at least the pictures that I was able to find some of the words.

Now, it supposedly happened on the walls too, but it was also in the fireplace.

And if it was, that makes total sense.

Yeah, it does.

So that's not the only anomaly here.

So you already got running water with limestone near the farm.

But this is another huge thing to me.

So there are some major ley lines that run very close to this farm.

Now, if you don't know what a ley line is, it's an imaginary line basically.

Now, they have maps drawn out of these lines that are supposedly said to connect ancient and spiritual sites.

So a lot of the, especially in Ireland, the UK, standing stones, right?

Stonehenge is a major that's on one.

The Calanish standing stones, I mean, there's multiple, multiple ones.

And even when the church came over basically and took over the pagan sites, they would build their churches on top of these sites because the ancient people knew something that we didn't.

Yep.

Okay.

And they built their major spiritual structures on these or near these lay lines.

The church did the same thing.

Sure did.

Okay.

So this is not just hogwash, this is actually something.

Yeah.

And you typically get a lot of spiritual activity near these lay lines.

Yeah.

And it's funny because those who have watched the movie, and I know a lot of people hate the movie, but the Ghostbusters with the girls that are in it, you know, so if you remember, they actually had a map of New York City, where they had the lay lines coming in.

Yeah.

So I mean, you can see this even in-

Oh yeah.

Because it's actually-

Yeah, it's something.

Now, a lay line, if people don't know, it is a straight line.

It's never going to curve or do anything like that, okay?

And it goes straight across the landscape, and it usually runs from one landmark to another, and they cross each other, and they can cross through one or more.

I mean, you know, similar landmarks along its entire route.

So there's some that like there's major crosses, and then, you know, I don't know.

It's kind of crazy if you pull up a map of the world, there's a ton of them.

Well, see, then that's what interests me, because, you know, the skeptic in me.

You can't really have a quote unquote straight line that intersects the entire-

Well, they're saying it's not going to do a bunch of swirlies and curves and stuff like that.

Because it would at least have to have like a-

Well, yeah, but they're saying, like, it goes straight.

Okay, I'll follow you now.

You know what I mean?

It's not going to curve or do weird stuff like that.

Gotcha.

So what they say is it represents the regions of where the earth energies lie.

And so no accident that these things are built along these things.

So the two, so I really got out the map and I looked at all this and I had to, it's really hard to find where this farm is because it's in a little tiny country area in between all these little country towns and villages and stuff like that.

And I had to try to compare it to the map and it took me loads of time to figure it out.

But there are two major lay lines that run close to this farm.

And the first one is the Irish West lay line, which runs for 303 miles.

That's a long one.

And the North Wales lay line, which runs for 104 miles.

And I think both of these are within like 25 miles of the farm.

That's wild.

And we'll put maps up because I actually pulled some up and tried to circle where the farm would be and where the river and the lines are.

Okay.

So you can see.

So you got all this going on.

Two major lay lines, the river, the limestone.

I'm not surprised in the least that all this stuff is going on.

Yeah.

I mean, if you're in that camp and you believe these lay lines sort of intersect this activity, absolutely.

You know, I mean, you've got arguably you just shown that there's two massive lay lines that go through it.

And even if you don't believe in that sort of thing, you know, it's really hard to argue that there is at least some sort of topographical or, you know, some sort of mapping that shows these lines.

Whether you believe they're carry paranormal activity or whether you believe it is what it is, it is very interesting that there is some intersection between those, and this house happens to be right there.

Right.

What I find interesting, when I was researching the river, like I said before, there's like an old church monastery, I can't remember exactly which, that sits very close to the river, okay?

And you've got that happening.

I remember what I said is that the church would build their buildings close to old historical spiritual sites.

Or on top of them.

Yeah, what if that was a historical spiritual site?

That's right close to the farm.

Yeah.

Maybe that's why they're seeing a monk or a druid.

We don't know which it could be.

Or even more ancient than that, we don't know.

And then you've got probably layered on top of that, this Jane, if that's who it is.

Well, but what is it?

It doesn't seem residual to me because of-

The monk sure doesn't.

No.

But the seeing her on the patio and in the field seems residual.

But yet, then we got the words, Jane and help me in the wall.

But could that be something else because they were focusing on that, that was using that to try to manipulate them?

We don't know.

There's multiple things that could be going on.

Right.

Well, and then you can also go into the whole idea of if you think something long enough and enough people do it for enough amount of time, you create it.

So case in point, the tombstone was there.

They knew the name.

They even knew the age.

Well, I don't know that they knew that the history of it that she was pregnant or anything like that.

I think that came with the BBC document.

I think the reporter researched and found that there was a girl that this happened to and she was buried in the field.

I don't think that happened until after they were already seeing that stuff.

The EVP or The Voice did not say anything about being pregnant.

It just said her name and help me.

No, it wasn't EVP.

Or not EVP, sorry, I was thinking something else.

It was in the wall.

Yeah, in the wall.

Sorry, guys, I'm old.

But that's just it, it never talked about being pregnant.

It just said her name and help me.

Yeah.

So that really is kind of irrelevant, that point about her being pregnant for this particular thing.

I don't know.

To me, it really kind of cuts a fine line on what you believe when it comes to paranormal activity and sort of what you're willing to suspend belief on.

Right.

If you're going to go in it full steam ahead, then yes, all of this stuff's in play.

But with the people that are sceptic, there are some interesting points, some interesting things of reference that come up in it.

It's limestone and it is easy to scratch or indent.

I don't even know why you do that.

I don't either.

You have to have something obviously very hard, and you'd have to be able to push into it.

First of all, it's not like he was there by himself.

He was a dad of three kids.

I could imagine one of the kids like, Dad, what are you doing there?

I don't know.

I honestly, my opinion is I believe the family.

Because there's so many factors here.

The number one turning down all that money.

I mean, they did not have to do that.

No, they didn't.

I'm sure that'd be very difficult because the American, let's just call it what it is, the American people that want to see movies like this, there's no shortage of them.

It would have been some horror, super scary, somebody's head spinning around.

Penyffordd Farms, one, two, and three.

It'd be like, come on.

It's always that big voiceover of like, this summer, you know?

I mean, yeah, it'd be fun to watch, but you know, this family obviously didn't want to be part of it.

And my hat's off to them, really.

Yeah, I'm glad that they didn't.

I just wish some, now someone could actually get in there and investigate.

It would be nice.

Now, I would imagine that family that's there now probably doesn't really want a whole lot to do with this.

And I get that too.

But it would be, if you could assure them that it wouldn't be made kind of a mockery of, and that a lot of people have these, I mean, 300 paranormal accountings.

Yeah.

That's a lot.

That's no small thing.

I mean, I don't know how many, let's say Winchester Mansion, or I'm sure we can look this up, or how many like Pennhurst or something like that has.

It don't, I mean, 300?

No, they probably do.

Yeah, they may.

Now.

Right now.

But this is, you know, talking about back then.

Not a lot of places had that much going on.

It's just, it's wild.

And the different types of hauntings, or I should say, I guess, the current is, yeah, right.

And we're talking about a potentially a pregnant girl, a monk.

You know, it's just, it's interesting.

I think the part that that really kind of drives things home is there's a very human element to it.

Yeah.

Honestly, I don't want it to be the girl because it just makes me sad to think that some young girl lost her life, you know, having a baby, and she gets buried out in a random field.

She's not consecrated into ground, which those are her religious beliefs.

Right.

So she can't move on.

She's trying to reach out for help.

Her gravestone gets moved.

Yeah, that sucks.

You know, and it's like, okay, it's moved to this house, and she's connected to that, and she's trying to reach.

I mean, my name's Jane.

Help me.

Yeah.

You know, and that just breaks my heart.

Yeah.

And obviously, nobody's done anything to help her.

And I don't know if they tried to do that during the documentary because we couldn't watch it.

I hope that they did.

But some things just go in for evidence, and then they, they leave.

They don't try to help who's stuck there.

And that, that bothers me.

And you know, you could probably find these things out.

I mean, they use LiDAR and stuff like that, that Ground Penetrating Radar and stuff, to go over things.

But nobody has access to it.

No access.

And again, the family that lives there, hey, it's your home.

Well, I mean, it's the classic story, right?

The family gets haunted, all these things happen.

They move out, the new family moves in, and nothing happens.

And I think it really is to do with the people.

Exactly.

I mean, I actually, my family had the same type of thing happen when I was a kid.

We had tons of stuff happen.

We moved out.

The people after never experienced the thing.

Right.

And you would have thought they would have.

Especially with what you guys had to deal with.

Yes.

So, I mean, I think it's just what you're open to.

If you're closed off to that stuff, you're not going to see anything.

Sure.

Or you just play it off as, you know, corner of my eye stuff.

Right.

Or, you know, maybe they don't feel comfortable reaching out to you.

That's true.

Maybe they connect to certain energies.

Yeah.

I mean, that makes sense.

They're going to be more likely to sense that than we are.

True.

Right.

I mean, that's what I get from it.

Yeah.

I mean, guys, it's an interesting...

I wouldn't say story because it's not a story per se.

It's just a...

It's an interesting topic.

It's a home that, you know, unfortunately we can't really go and explore.

I know that there's a lot of paranormal groups out there.

In fact, there's a few that I think are on our Facebook too.

Yeah.

And, you know, they haven't had a chance to go there.

But if you have, please reach out to us.

I'm very curious to know.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

It could just be a paranormal investigation group from Ireland or Scotland or England that have traveled there to try to.

Right.

Doesn't necessarily have to be based in Wales.

So...

Yeah, maybe they just didn't want a big spectacle.

Yeah.

If you have privately, you can reach us at info at gxparanormal.com and just let us know.

And if you experience anything or if you got any evidence, we can just keep it between us.

But I'm very curious to know.

Me too.

I want to know if Jane has crossed over.

I hope so.

Because it bothers me.

I'm an empath and it bothers me a lot.

She is an empath.

When I feel like somebody's suffering on the other side, it just, yeah.

But you know what, guys?

It's again, it's a lot of what you want to believe.

We're clearly not the only people that have done this.

So if you wanted to look that up, there's other content out there.

Kind of form your own opinion.

But other than that, guys, hey, listen, we do have a Patreon.

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Because who can wait?

And we also have a higher tier where at some point, we could do live stream with you guys, too.

So yeah, good stuff out there.

Again, if you just want to join, it is free.

We're going to put other information in there that we may not put on the Facebook or something like that.

Right.

And we've got Facebook, Instagram.

Yep.

What are all the others?

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It's Twitter.

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