Ghost and Spirit XPerience in Savannah

In this episode of Generation X Paranormal, co-hosts Logan and Nicole are joined by Mike and Ty Defore, the passionate owners of Spirit Xperience Walking Ghost Tour. Together, they uncover the mysteries of Savannah, Georgia—widely regarded as one of the most haunted cities in America.

Mike and Ty share their incredible journey as paranormal enthusiasts and tour guides, offering listeners an insider’s perspective on Savannah’s rich history and eerie legends. From ghostly encounters to the fascinating stories behind Savannah’s most infamous haunted locations, this episode will transport you straight to the shadowy streets of this Southern city.

Learn how the Defore duo blends historical accuracy, storytelling, and supernatural expertise to create a one-of-a-kind ghost tour experience. Whether you're fascinated by the paranormal or intrigued by Savannah’s cultural heritage, this episode offers a perfect blend of chilling tales and historical depth.

Don’t miss this exciting conversation with two experts who bring Savannah’s haunted history to life!

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And then we finally got cut loose on our own.

We started knowing that noticing that the tools that we had were doing some really interesting things that wasn't going on during our training.

And they weren't in our head.

Yeah, and these are, we put them in the guest's hands, you know, we're holding these things, we're letting the guest hold them.

And then what we started to figure out is, with Ty here, is that things seem to be attracted to her.

Well, hey everybody, welcome back.

Hey, everyone.

I'm Logan.

And I'm Nicole.

And this is Generation X Paranormal.

You know, just recently I saw that the new Dexter is coming out.

So guys, we're huge Dexter fans.

And so I just saw that Dexter's still alive.

I mean, how's he still alive?

Didn't he get shot?

He's Dexter.

Anyway guys, listen, we got a good show.

We have some folks that are out in Savannah, Georgia.

Place that we've been, we really enjoy it.

Yeah, Savannah's awesome.

It's beautiful.

And they've got a tour.

They do a ghost tour, but it's a little bit different than what you're probably used to seeing.

And we're going to talk to Mike and Ty Defore.

What can you tell us about them?

So Mike and Ty Defore are a married couple from Savannah, Georgia.

They have recently started their own Paranormal Walking Ghost Tour in Savannah, Georgia, called Spirit Xperience with a big X.

Like us.

Yes.

To share these experiences with others.

They also conduct investigations to assist people who are having difficult times with their Paranormal activity.

And they have recently joined with Living with the Paranormal.

Oh, okay.

Now, I'm nervous.

Now, I'm going to read you their little thing for their Walking Ghost Tour because it's really cool.

Cool.

So, you know, you go to their web page and you click on that and you're interested in the ghost tour.

This is what you would read.

Okay.

It says, Join us as we guide you through the streets of Savannah, not only sharing our rich history and fascinating folklore, but actually attempting to communicate with the multiple Savannahian spirits.

I love that.

That are in abundance in one of America's most haunted cities.

Paranormal equipment will be supplied.

We limit the number of guests on our tour and only offer one tour a night to ensure that our guests have ample time to have a personal experience with our intuitive guides, as well as the numerous spirits of Savannah.

Yeah, that's awesome.

I'd join immediately.

It's awesome.

Count us in.

Well, listen, let's get to talking to them.

Let's talk to Mike and Ty.

Well, hey, Mike, hey Ty, how are you doing?

Hey, thank you all for having us.

Oh, of course.

Yeah.

Welcome to Generation X Paranormal, a little corner of the world here.

We've been excited to have you on, and we talked a little bit brief when we first got on that.

We apologize it took a little while, but we're happy to have you on.

We've had some folks on in the past, and we've actually worked with a few that do tours, but none necessarily quite how you guys do them, and we're very interested to get started with that.

But before we dive into the proverbial well, tell us a little bit about yourselves.

I mean, if you guys want to talk about yourselves separately, or just kind of, where did this all start?

Well, where it starts starts, I'll let Ty start with, because she has an interesting beginning.

So, can you tell us a little bit about your background, please?

I was born quite prematurely.

So when I was born, I was actually baptized and given my last rites all at birth.

I wasn't supposed to make it.

So a lot of people believe the veil between the living and the dead has always been quite thin for me.

Some people call me clairvoyant, some people call me a beacon.

But basically, spirits are drawn to me and I'm drawn to them.

I first married about four years of age, Tucson, Arizona, going down for a nap time and seeing shadow people come towards me, not one or two, but dozens of them.

I always knew stuff about ancestors that I never should have known about, where we were at, how to get there, stuff like that.

So I've just always been drawn to the spiritual world.

Awesome.

You said the magical word.

Hey, what's the name of your dog?

This is Bob.

We spell his name backwards.

Hi, Bob.

Little B, little O, big B, but this is Bob.

Nice.

That's awesome.

You meet with the Crop Band NoFX.

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

Name who Bob who pisses on my floor, and that's where you get his name.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

If you guys are listening on the podcast, their dog has made a wonderful appearance.

Gorgeous dog.

Very cute.

Ty, you said something that has made you one of my favorite people so far.

I am from Tucson.

So kind of a small world.

Well, I was born in Douglas and raised in Tucson, but yeah, talk about a small world.

Okay.

So that's quite a breadth of experience.

Was there anything else that kind of I guess kind of opened that door, the trying to open the third eye aside from just obviously in the beginning, but was there anything later in life that kind of changed things?

Well, I mean, honestly, my grandparents, I was raised by my grandparents, they're Native American as well as Mexican descent.

And they never said, when I saw something in the corner of my eye, they never said there was no such thing as ghost.

They never, ever corrected that.

So I always thought that that was never closed.

Because the more somebody tells you there's no such thing, the tendencies tend to ignore stuff.

Well, I was never taught that.

So I went on and on for years like that.

I was married prior to Michael.

And my first husband, when he passed away, that was the first time everything went silent for me.

Like I didn't see nothing, I didn't smell nothing, I didn't taste nothing.

Those are out, sorry, the spirit world communicates with me via taste and smells.

If they can't show them, they'll give me the taste and smells.

That was the first time it was totally nothing, void for about a full year.

And then as I went through the grieving and started healing, then the gifts are slowly coming back up.

But when I married my lovely husband, they definitely went high.

Like really, they revved up quite a bit.

Yeah, a little bit of my background.

I am a former pastor and I'd actually lost my faith.

Now, when I was a pastor, I did have instances where I had church members that would have some paranormal things going on.

And I believe that all those were demonic in nature.

And so we did take care of those things.

It's only happened a few times over the course of eight years, but those are things that did crop up during those times.

But I'd actually lost my faith, you could say.

I wouldn't say I lost my faith.

I just got angry with God.

And so I turned my back on the church and religion and all that.

And that's the kind of state I was in when I met Ty.

And she's always been a good Catholic girl.

So, you know, from the very moment we said I'd do, things just started going crazy.

But as soon as our wedding was over, when we walked into our home, we were living on Tybee Island at the time.

When we walked through the door, we felt something enter the house with us.

Really?

Yeah, and that started a couple of years of what we know to be now demonic activity.

And so we went through quite a situation.

Yes, we did.

Yes, it sounds like there were things such as, well, it started off, you know, the normal infestation sort.

Well, I didn't know about the infestation and all the ways it goes through it at that time.

But I do know it well now because I lived through it.

You know, there's the infestation phase where there was the scratches and the knocks and that sort of thing.

To the point where I would, you know, go out and check, make sure there wasn't a raccoon or something coming, trying to scrape through the wall.

That's for sure.

And how they moved the fridge and stuff.

Yeah, just to try to figure out, maybe there was a rat or whatever, but we never could find anything.

Then it started ramping up from there.

Some of the experiences that, I mean, we had, this was over a course of two years, and this is also during the COVID period.

Okay.

We were all familiar with it.

Yeah.

But some of the major things that stand out is, one, we had a candle we had burned.

It completely burned out, nothing left in it.

Put it in the trash can.

It had been in the trash can for over 24 hours, and it exploded.

I don't mean it exploded so hard, it blew glass all the way across the roof.

Oh, my gosh.

There was another instance, we were sitting on the couch watching television, and we started hearing this sound.

And it sounded literally like an airplane was about to land on our house.

And it got louder and louder.

And then when it did sound like it was actually, I mean, we had jumped off the couch and was like going, what in the world's going on?

But this sound came through the house, and when it did, it made a long down, kind of a low guttural noise in the back up again.

And when it did that, the lights didn't just flicker, the lights actually went down and back up with that sound.

So that was pretty-

That's interesting.

Yeah, that was, yeah.

Another time-

Yeah, odd smell.

Yeah, odd smells, but something else that really stands out is we were sitting on the couch again, watching television, COVID, a lot of people did that.

That's what you did.

And so we started to hear some wind chimes, but we live at the beach.

Wind chimes, everybody has wind chimes, so we're ill.

But these wind chimes started to get extremely loud.

And then it sounded like it literally encompassed our entire property.

And it literally got so loud, we had to cover our ears.

And it's a little large property.

We lived in a little 460 square feet, little shack of a house.

I mean, we loved it, but it was quite small.

And I mean, we had the oddest things.

My hairbrush, I don't take it outside, and we had a common area for the whole complex we lived in.

And I would find my hairbrush outside.

It was the oddest things.

He would hear me calling him and think he saw me, and I wasn't even in the bathroom with him.

It was just really, really odd.

And it was weird for me with we weren't getting along.

But as soon as we left the house, everything was peaceful.

But as soon as we walked back into that house, we couldn't.

We just couldn't get along.

Of course, that was the oppression phase of things.

I started getting into a deep state of depression, and I aneuroded myself and everyone.

So the oppression phase kicked in, and it stuck around for a while.

And things, I mean, it's just literally like movie-quality things.

Where I can say, well, we had a television program come and film with us, but they don't want us to say who they are until the show comes out.

Their whole idea, their thinking behind that is, is they want people to think everything's fresh.

Say, what's the story from five years ago?

So how fresh would it be?

But anyway.

That's true.

Oh, movie magic.

They filmed with us about all this.

So just things that happened, just really, I went from thinking that most of the paranormal activity was either angelic or demonic in nature.

They're going, hey, there's demon activity here, and they're in, but it was through this time that we also started to connect with other human spirits.

The case in point is that I got to the point where I was just done.

I mean, with life and everything.

I was just at the lowest point.

I mean, I probably was right on the point of possession because they were beating me down.

Yeah.

In possession.

Right when I hit that point where I had to make a decision just let go and let this thing do what it want to, or fight back, my mother, who has passed away some years ago, actually came to me and said, get up and fight soon.

And I got up and it was right after that, I literally saw the demon.

You know, people talk about, you know, gargoyle looking things and whatnot.

That's not what I saw at all.

Yeah, I didn't see that.

What I saw, you know what a golem is?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

A little like a gold golem, but these are displaying the eyes.

The eyes were just hypnotizing.

I mean, and to see it was just terrified.

You know, it's actual physical being wasn't that terrifying, but the feeling it gave you, by seeing your laying eyes on it, it just into a state of shock.

And when that happens-

That makes sense.

Well, Ty realized what was going on, and she came over to me, and she literally took her a while, but she pulled me out of it.

And it was at that point that we connected, and we said, you know, I guess we were in some type of denial about things or whatever.

But when that happened, we both said, okay, let's get rid of this stage.

Now, if you watch TV show, they're gonna be like, we did it that same night, but it literally took a month after that to get rid of this.

You know, also we started doing things like connecting together again.

I started regaining my faith.

We did things like we took communion together.

We started doing these sort of things to build up our spiritual life.

And then we did go through and command for the spirit to leave and cleanse the house.

And that's when we finally got rid of it.

And then we moved to our family home not long after that.

So we actually left that property.

But since then, what I've learned through her is that, you know, the demons are no fun, but the human spirit, there's really not a lot of fear in those.

Right.

Through her, I've learned that, you know, life with her is interesting.

I'll say that.

I'm sure.

Yeah, that's it.

What's funny is that, I guess, funny, not funny, but I have some of the very same heritage you have, Ty.

And I think Nicole would agree that living with a half-native, half, well, on my mom's side, I'm Scottish, Scottish and Swedish.

But I think the attitude definitely comes from my native side.

But it does.

So what do you, what do you, and Ty, I guess, maybe if you don't mind answering this, and I'm going to touch a little bit about what Mike said when you first met and things started ramping up.

I know you guys both mentioned that.

What do you feel or what do you attest that to be?

What do you think caused that?

Honestly, because I was madly, deeply in love with Mike, but he had no faith, and I still want to marry him.

That's a very dangerous road.

If somebody doesn't have faith and you do, it can, like the Bible says, if you're not equally yoke, there can be some issues.

You actually marry somebody that's equally yoke to you.

I think that's what it was.

He used to be a preacher and he left his faith.

I mean, what else?

I mean, that would be any archie of a demon's goal is to keep somebody away from God.

Absolutely, yeah.

I think it's like some of the truly has faith, and I want to marry this man.

So now we're going to be tied as one.

So of course, I'm going to tug more on him about his faith, about why he left the church, why, what happened, and all that.

I think that's kind of the real, yeah, kind of like the fuel of it.

Sure, that makes really good sense.

Pretty terrifying.

It is very terrifying.

We've definitely, it's funny, we just recently spoke with a demon seer, which that's a whole other level of paranormal that I had never really messed with before.

So.

I am curious though, Mike, you talked about the eyes.

Was there a certain color of the eyes that you saw?

No, it was more, I guess, electrical, I guess would be the best way to describe it.

It's really, you know, I say golem and I say these things, but the actual description is, it's hard to verbalize for me.

Right, I get you.

Well, when you explained it to me when it happened was, do you remember those electrical charge things that we had like in the 80s and you could touch it?

Oh yeah.

Little Tesla things, yeah.

It was kind of like that, but full of like silverly glitter in it as well.

There was like bright gold silver glitter that was like in it, but it was also shocking, so it was glittery and brighter and so it was weird.

Yeah, it is weird.

Wow, like energy.

Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me for sure.

Yeah, well, you know, kind of leaning into what we started to talk about, what we brought you on, what you want to be here, of course.

Let's, how did that pivot into kind of what you guys do now with the tours?

Well, after that, COVID was still going on and we needed to make some money.

And I was just looking on Facebook and I saw that a ghost tour company was hiring.

I was like, well, that would be fun.

Well, a couple of hours a night, go on a tour.

So we decided, hey, let's just do this.

You decided, and I didn't.

Yes, we are left.

You get us both.

That's right.

But we started working for this company and they had the rods and the EMF meters and whatnot.

And we went through a training process where we followed them around.

It was good.

We learned the stories and whatnot.

And then we finally got cut loose on our own.

We started noticing that the tools that we had were doing some really interesting things that wasn't going on during our training.

And they weren't at home.

Really?

Yeah.

And these are, we put them in the guest's hands.

We're not holding these things.

We're letting the guest hold them.

And then what we started to figure out is, with Ty here, is that things seem to be attracted to her.

And as we go around to these places, we started to learn the different spirits at the different locations and start developing friendships with these spirits.

And through that, we trust them, they trust us.

And now, on the tour, I say we get interesting interactions.

But I'm real quick to let people know, when I say interesting, I mean, oh, that's a ghost.

That's interesting on our tours.

The Rods just do things that, one of the coolest things that happens on our tour, when it does occur, we can't guarantee interaction.

These are spirits, they might not be present at that time.

They might not want to be bothered.

But we can't say that every tour we've done so far today, at least in one or two locations, we'll get some very interesting interactions.

But one of the things that we've learned that a couple of spirits like to do in some locations, is we'll ask them to point at a certain person in the group and ask the spirit to turn all the rods to that one person.

And to this day, you know, I see it all the time, but still it just blows me away when I see 10 pair of rods all turn to the one person that you asked for.

You know, you could see maybe one or two persons might be goofing off or anything.

10 people is not just going to play along like that, especially when you have people seeing that they're skeptical to begin with.

Exactly.

Exactly.

We see things like that.

It's just really neat.

It's just...

That is really cool.

You know, it's funny.

What we're doing is helping people kind of understand that there is a whole other world out there and it's nothing to be afraid of, you know.

Exactly.

Little demons, but...

Well, yeah, that can be frightening, but yeah.

It's better to teach them than to let them do it on their own and learn the wrong way.

Yeah.

Yes, exactly.

What's interesting is that we just recently came back from, well, I would say just recently, but within the last couple of months.

And we have a pretty good set of, I was gonna say the word dowsing rods.

I had totally botched that on a show, not that long ago, and I called them.

Diving rods.

Diving rods.

I don't know what I was saying.

Well, the vining rods.

So we had our dowsing rods with us.

And what's funny is most of my family, including myself for the most part, are pretty skeptical for the most part.

I think out of the two of us, I'm the more skeptical.

So it's not that I don't believe, I just, I'm constantly trying to put it up against, you know, certain rationale.

Anyway, long story short, most of my family's like that, and that's who we're out visiting.

We gave the dowsing rods to our nephews.

And, you know, of course, being young, they're like, I don't believe in any of this stuff.

And well, he actually, I won't say his name, but he was holding, the oldest of the two, was holding the dowsing rods, and he would say, he would ask a question, and they legitimately would point at an individual.

And his, hey, I mean, just to...

It scared him.

It scared him, absolutely.

And I knew for a fact at that point, I'm like, okay.

We need to stop.

Yeah, we need to stop.

And I just find it, and I'm gonna make this point because we have technical stuff, we do.

I mean, we've got the EVP stuff, we've got, you know, K2 meters, we've got all the gadgets in the world, but it's amazing how just something as simple as dowsing rods and a pendulum do, you know, out and about.

I mean, these were around forever.

So, kind of hitting it.

We're part of a paranormal team, and we have all the gadgets, Rampod, you know, all the roadplates.

We've got the latest and greatest and whatnot.

Which is great on an inside investigation.

But, you know, with a crowd of 10 people, you know, time to set up that sort of thing and explain how it works and that sort of thing.

They're just, the rods are just perfect for that.

Absolutely.

Put it in their hands.

So, you know, if anything's going on, they realize they're the only ones doing it.

They can't accidentally make stuff go off.

Right.

Right.

Or say, hey, maybe y'all doing something and, you know, pressing a button, setting it off, it wakes the EMF meters too.

And I've heard people kind of say that.

It's like they're pressing a button somewhere.

Right.

That's fun.

I was so glad, like, when I checked you guys out, I'm like, this is awesome.

Because a lot, you know, we've been on multiple of these ghost tours here in Missouri, you know, and they're great because they give you history and they talk about all the sites.

But you just walk as a big group and you don't really get to experience anything most of the time.

So getting, you know, putting this in the hands of people and letting them actually see, you know, and experience that interaction is just awesome, I think.

So kudos to you guys.

I think that's really cool.

That was one of the largest reasons why we stopped working for other companies.

They did a great job.

The amount of people they had on it was up to 30, 35?

30.

Yeah, and that's too many people.

Yeah, we limit it up to 15.

We don't put on more than 15 people in our tour.

I hated it when I moved here, because I did.

I'm a historical fan, I love history, and I am architectural details.

So I did all the tours here in Savannah, and I felt like a number.

Actually, I just felt like a dollar bill.

I need nobody talk to me and I have any, and I'm trying to ask a question, I have to like scream, tap somebody down.

And I'm shy, and I don't have a loud dominant voice.

It's kind of squeaky.

So, I like the intimacy of our groups.

I like to talk to them, you know, and that we could let them have, and we're on their time.

So if we're getting action, and we're getting the ros going, and they want to stay someplace a little longer, and they're overly excited, by all means, yes.

Yeah, that's one thing is working for other companies.

They'd have like two tours scheduled in one night.

And we'd be on our eight o'clock tour, and we're having to hurry these people through to get to that ten o'clock tour.

So that's one of the things.

We limit the number of people on the tour, and we also only offer one tour a night, because we say we have a two-hour tour, but we've yet to do a two-hour tour.

They usually do two and a half hours, and then even more depending on filling out how much people want to continue with the new destinations we do, because we love it.

You know, we can, we can do it.

Especially if there's activity, it's really hard to walk away from activity.

Yeah.

It's, you know, we have some very close friends that we do some paranormal, like, investigations at a few of the notable things.

And I think every time, or the last time we were with them, I think we did our, so they did like a guided tour a little bit on the inside.

It's an internal, so it's all inside buildings, but they kind of did the same thing a little bit what you guys do, a little bit of toward the campus and the area that we were at.

And then there was like an hour or two of go investigate on your own.

Well, an hour or two turns into three hours, turns into four.

Next thing you know, we're like, I'm exhausted.

It has been hours and hours.

But yeah, whenever you get that thrill, that rush, that's pretty hard to walk away from, especially if it's just a walking tour.

So we talked a little bit about the dowsing rods.

And you guys have some EMF detectors.

Is there anything else that you guys take on the walking tour?

We do.

We'll use the mag light on some places.

You know, we set it up.

That's just a touch lay.

We use cat balls.

We'll set some cat balls out.

It's very rare they go off.

And I explain to people as soon as I tell them how it works.

And I set them up.

I said, if they go up, you're gonna watch a grown man just go totally bonkers over a lip.

It's rare that they go off.

They do go off sometimes, but that really gets me going when they're set off.

And we do take something else with us.

Are you guys familiar with the Overnight on YouTube, the Overnight channel?

They do paranormal investigation.

I don't think so, no.

Well, not this past Halloween, the Halloween last, they went to the Warren Sokolt Museum.

Oh, okay.

I know.

Yeah.

They talked to Tony Sparrow.

They did the thing with Tony Sparrow.

Yeah.

And they were looking at him.

Oh, okay.

That's okay.

No, they actually spent a hundred hours at the Theat-

at the Colt Museum, and they live streamed it the whole time.

And they brought with them 666 Raggedy Ann dolls and put them in the Colt Museum.

Oh my goodness.

And so I did buy one of those from them.

This is for charity, of course, right?

Yeah.

We think that on tour, because we do have them on each one.

We offer two different tours, but on both tours, there are a spot on each one where we do communicate with a little girl.

And so I bring the doll out at that time to, you know, try to entice the little girls to come for it.

And to brag, of course, you know, I got a little Annabelle doll.

Of course, you got to do that.

You got to use that.

Yeah.

Well, I have to get the girls to focus because they have to focus on the doll.

On the doll, yeah.

Yeah.

I have to keep that in mind.

We've got a Boo Bear that, you know, we're excited to get out there.

And we, every once in a while, we'll see something that we just can't walk away from.

We recently got a device that looks like a pack of cigarettes.

So when you open it up, there's a sensor on the cigarettes, a fake cigarette, of course.

So like if you go to a prison or something like that, and you're offering a cigarette, I can't wait to see what kind of stuff comes out of it.

Anyway, long story short, that looks good.

No, I'm very interested in that.

If you don't mind sharing with me.

I will.

Yeah, well, I'll send you the link.

Yes, please.

We'll stop where one of the gentlemen there loves tobacco.

You'll need this device.

Yes, that sounds perfect.

We'll talk after.

Yeah, we'll talk after.

All right, I'll say them on your podcast here.

Maybe they'll give me a discount.

It's Ghost Stop.

So yeah.

No, this is from an Etsy shop.

Oh, there you go.

Yeah, I had seen that on Ghost Stop.

No.

So we get so many different things.

I forget where they come from.

I'm on Etsy all the time.

It's a problem.

Did most of my Christmas shopping on it.

It kind of went a little bit.

It's too easy to do.

I mean, the founder of our paranormal team just gave us this little fellow right here.

A little sloth.

It's a real sloth.

That's so cute.

A blue bear, so to speak.

Yeah, that's awesome.

There we go.

You're okay.

For us, it's so normal.

We just keep.

That's normal sounds, right?

Yeah.

It's just like home.

So taking people out, how many?

Okay, so I know you have to have a fair number of skeptics, and then you have a fair number of believers.

I know it's probably really hard to gauge how things go sometimes, depending on how people are reacting.

Everybody brings something different to the table.

Sure.

So give us one of those moments where a skeptic became a believer pretty quickly.

Well, we do have people do come on the tour, and we start off by asking people, we visit with them before we start the tour.

We always ask, are you a believer or you're a skeptic?

If they're a skeptic, we say that's perfectly fine, because we're going to share the history, we're going to share the folklore, we just want to make sure you have a good time.

We don't expect to make you a believer, we just want you to have a good time.

Nine times out of 10, these people by the end of the tour will say, well, you know, I'm not going to say 100% believe in ghosts now, but I'm a lot more leading that way than I was at the beginning of the tour.

And we'll have people, of course, at the end of the, well, Ty opens up the session and then closes it down again at the end of the tour, and then offers a cleansing with some white sage, you know, anything connected, leave it here.

Right, very good.

But it is good to see some people, you know, that show up and they want a blessing, they'll say yes or no.

And we've had people to refuse the blessing, get in the car, leave, come back around, get back out and go, no, I changed my mind, I think I'd come back.

Really?

They thought about it for a second.

So when we see things like that, you know, it's pretty full, you know, and being we're a new company, we really, you know, encourage our guests to write us Google reviews.

We have a few reviews where people said, I came on in a skeptic, but I left thinking that there may be ghost in the world.

They want to see that sort of thing.

Man, that just makes us feel great.

That's awesome.

We're able to share that experience with people.

Or when they see the rods move for the first time, and they say some, you know, some word that the children probably won't be hearing.

This past week, we've had two different guests on two different tours.

When the rods started at the first stop, both of them go, oh, shit.

I know that feeling.

Those are the kind of things we live for.

Or the ones that are really scared, and they decide to give us back the rod.

Oh, yes.

Now, more than the skeptic, we do have people that come on the tour.

And I feel bad.

And yeah, I do too.

But, you know, it's like, did you read our description at all?

How long are we going to do?

We said what we're doing here.

But we do have people come on and they get a little afraid of the situation.

I'll admit.

And what we try to do is we, Ty puts extra protection around them, that sort of thing.

And then, you know, I kind of, during the course of tour, make sure I'm in contact, communication with them, make sure they're okay.

But what I found with a lot of those instances is the people that came in that were afraid.

Now, some of them may use the rods towards the end, but the majority of them torched in the tour ago, okay, I can see where this is okay.

And so, it was frightening.

Lead them towards more, okay, this is okay what we're doing here.

We're not sitting here trying to have a seance or a Ouija board, you know, this is a threat.

I think it all boils down, honestly, to just education about this whole world, because people like that are going off of TV shows.

And movies, and they're like, they're expecting like a demon to pop up out to the ground for something and attack them.

And I think, you know, for us, like we've all had our personal experiences in life.

And so we're kind of, I don't know, just desensitized.

Yeah, we know it's not really going to get to that point.

But for a lot of these people, you know, this is their first thing to deal with.

And so they're just terrified, I think, until they learn, oh, you know, it's not going to be like that.

It's not going to be like the movies.

And we always are a big believer, and I don't know if you guys kind of tell your guests this too, that intention is everything.

You know, going into something, if you're kind of that person that is going to dwell on the same thing over and over, that it's going to be negative or something, it's going to be evil, and it's just, you know, that is the only thing that's in your heart, there's a chance that that's what's going to display because that is your intention.

And I think I happen to believe, and I don't know if you guys do too, but we can also manifest some things that some people believe are ghosts, but reality is it's our own manifestation of something completely different.

And intention is way too important for that.

So yeah, we're pretty, at least I am, I've kind of seen it a few times, but yeah, that's a whole nother tangent.

I think I get, yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, we have people that come on that do kind of come out at negative, and they're not getting interaction at all.

I mean, the way we sort of look at it is, you know, the spirits, of course, I think are natural empaths.

So they're there, they can feel what these people are going, what you're saying with their intention and what they're bringing to this.

Exactly.

I think a lot of the negative people, the spirits just don't even want to interact with.

We notice the good, positive energy.

Oh, man, you can't stop those rods from moving.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

It's just like in life.

If you walk upon a person that's got a frown upon their face, you don't want to stand there and talk to them.

You're going to go to the person smiling and that's happy.

I mean, it's the same thing.

Yeah.

I mean, it's like a spirit sitting there, you know, going, I'm going to deal with this shithead.

I mean, I'm going to have some fun with this guy over here, you know.

Hey, they're at least having fun.

Yeah, right.

I'm going to deal with this guy.

This guy's a dick.

I'm out of here.

Yeah, this guy's a dick.

I don't know what his problem is.

Oh, man.

So, Savannah, so we've been...

How about, I was trying to remember, I think it's been like seven years we were down there, and I wish we would have spent more time.

We were, we had flown into...

So we flew into Savannah, and we were doing a road trip.

So we were only there for a couple days, but I wish we would have spent more time.

And I've been there a couple of times past that, but the couple of times that I was there was mainly in Hilton Head.

I was doing some work, but we love Savannah.

I will say that, especially in Forsyth Park, is that, so I have that feeling usually, when you're walking around somewhere, and that feeling in your gut, that I always tell people, listen to your gut.

It's trying to tell you something.

And walking around Forsyth Park is like on overdrive.

It is just, I feel like when you're walking around that park, that even if there wasn't a soul there, which is impossible because that place is so busy, but if there wasn't a soul there, you know you're not alone.

Just that feeling.

And I know you guys do that.

So talk to us a little bit about the setting of Savannah, why that has a unique appeal for you guys, especially being, well, having a ghost tour.

Well, speaking of Forsyte Park, now Ty knows the dates.

What year was the Forsyte Park started?

1854.

She's the brains behind operation, you see.

Also this one.

1854.

But what those grounds were used for originally is in World War I, World War II, Vietnam, the Korean War.

It was used for military parade grounds there in Forsyte Park.

And so I think some of that energy you're feeling is all that emotion from that.

And to think about where these guys went off to and what they endured.

Okay.

Well, that was the edge of town.

So the more Englishmen that came in, the more the indigenous were pushed back and back and back.

So they spent a lot of time in the edge of town.

Okay.

Okay.

So yeah, there's a lot.

In fact, that's part of what we go through Forsyth Park on one of our tours.

And there's a lot of energy there.

People's actually called full body apparitions in that part.

I'm not surprised in the least.

Yeah, especially around the...

Well, we stayed on the edge in one of those Victorian homes.

It was an Airbnb at the time and it was just one night.

And then we walked through Forsyth Park and we walked.

There was an Italian restaurant on the street over from it.

I know that we went to and we went by the fountain and everything, but that's all I really remember.

It was across the street from a very frightening non-ghostly hotel.

It looked like there was a lot of interesting folks that would go in that place.

But yeah, that was the...

You're right, that was there.

Now, of course, a lot of people will know that it was the Forest Gump Park.

And of course, the bench isn't there, you know, Hollywood magic stuff.

But I know when I was there, the place that I felt the most was around the fountain, and not directly at the fountain.

But there was a few walkways that kind of intersect before they come towards the fountain.

And just walking around there, I just felt like...

I definitely felt like I was walking in the past of some people.

Well, now, that's very curious.

I'm curious to which path it was now.

Some tour companies will tell you that during the Yellow Fever of 1820, that there was a big crypt and there's a lot of bodies buried right underneath that fountain.

It's not true.

It's not true.

However, one of those pathways does lead over to what was the old Candler Hospital.

And there is a tunnel coming off of there that does run into the park a little bit, where they did literally stack those bodies during the Yellow Fever epidemic until they could bury them.

So I'm wondering if that might be one of the pathways you went down.

I'm sure it was.

Not only that, the old Candler Hospital, the parking lot right in front of it, that is a cemetery.

That's where they buried the people who didn't have the family members.

They'd pick them up.

They buried them right there in front of that hospital.

So there's an unmarked cemetery right there.

And so there's a lot of things going on right there.

No wonder.

Well, yes, that's one of the things we'll tell you in Savannah, where city-builders are dead and you're never far from orcs.

That's just not, we're not just talking out of our butts.

We really mean that.

Yeah.

There's a case of unmarked cemetery.

On that same, that's one of our tours.

On that same tour, we go to another unmarked cemetery.

There was an African-American Slave Time Cemetery.

It's actually a huge square.

That's a cemetery.

In Savannah, you'll find in the squares, you'll find corpses buried there.

They'll tell you that it's buried there on the plaques.

You find this all over Savannah.

Savannah is literally built on our dead.

Everywhere you turn, there's an old cemetery.

I'm also going to say that this is kind of cheeky, but Savannah is a city, but it still has that small town mentality.

Everybody is business, especially the upper crest of society.

They're very clique-ish and they know each other very well.

So watching strangers and what they're doing.

So when you're busy in Savannah, you're a stranger.

So all the spirits' eyes are on you because of trying to figure out why are you here.

What do you think?

That's a good point.

No offense to us northerners.

I'll say now not being true southerners, but especially that, if you're not true southerner, they have eyes on you.

Yes.

They have eyes on you.

You're going to have to earn their trust and earn their respect.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense because knowing that area is not even there.

Even when you're just below the Mason-Dixon, there's a lot of southern people take it very, very serious.

I mean, being from Arizona and California somewhat, I was stationed at Virginia Beach.

Sorry, it took me a second.

And we were walking around and I had some young lady stop me.

Of course, I say young lady at the time.

I was like 23 and she's probably 20.

She stopped me and said, where are you from?

And I said, I'm from Tucson.

She goes, oh, you just must be one of them Yankees.

I had never been called that before in my life.

I'm like, Southern Arizona.

It's just so funny.

Yeah, I know.

I'm like, no, I'm from the west, from the west, southwest or the west.

That's right.

That's right.

I'm a westerner.

But did you guys happen to visit Colonial Park Cemetery when you visited Savannah?

No.

No, we weren't.

Like we were going through this whole long road trip.

So we were leaving and going up to South Carolina and the North Carolina, then Virginia.

So we were only there for what?

Like a day and a half, the first day.

And then a day at the very end to go back to the airport.

So if we didn't get to tour the whole city, we will be back.

Oh yeah, we're coming back.

Definitely.

I want to say with the Colonial Park Cemetery, tell me about the Yankee thing.

Colonial Park Cemetery is in downtown Savannah.

But other tour companies love to tell the story that when Sherman came to Savannah, of course, he didn't burn Savannah down.

In the Northern troops, this much is true, stayed in the cemetery area.

Well, some tour companies love to tell people that while the Northern troops were there, they just destroyed all kinds of headstones, desecrated epitats, they broke in the tombs, they took clothing off bodies.

There is no historical evidence of any of that ever happening.

I share that on my tours.

I go, as much as we like to blame the damn Yankees, we can.

The truth is that they went to three different churches before it wound up in the city of Savannah's hands.

And when the city of Savannah originally had it, they used that cemetery as a dump site.

So that's why it happens in the different tombstones and whatnot.

But yeah, so that's the Southern mentality, want to blame the Yankees for everything.

When I say living here and speaking to the spirits here, then like in New Mexico or in Arizona and Colorado, here?

Yes ma'am, no ma'am, thank you sir, thank you ma'am.

Even with the spirits, not just with the living.

They can go a long, long way.

Some of our guests will just be like, point my rods.

And I'm like, sir, could you point my rods?

Yeah.

Yeah, boy, this goes a long way, of course.

Yes it does, yes it does.

Yeah, and it's funny because I think a lot of people forget that when you get into this that, well, obviously, they're from the past because they're no longer with us.

But they were still human beings.

They were human beings and you have to think, you have to think about, especially being in Savannah, you know, you think about that, that good old boy thing, that whole, you know, how things were done.

Respect and, you know, there was a way you addressed people back then.

There was a way that you did things.

And I think, especially for season, paranormal investigators, sometimes I think we get a little complacent on things like that.

And you're like, OK, maybe part of the reason I'm not getting any activity is I'm walking around here like an idiot, talking like I'm just talking to somebody that's, you know, from our era.

And they're like, of course, they're not going to talk to you.

I think you're freaking crazy.

So you change it up a little bit, you know.

One of my favorite things on ghost shows that always cracks me up, they say, is that you?

Some of them say that.

Is that you?

Well, is that who?

Who are you talking to?

Or you can be like me and, you know, speak out my mouth when I'm not supposed to.

The Spirit just totally shuts me down.

Yeah.

We were getting great action, the guests were getting great action.

I said something to one of our really big...

Southern gentlemen.

Yes, but he's a really big person in Savannah.

What he was living, so they're very...

Yeah, still very influential.

Yes.

And still very much likes to be talked about in a positive manner.

But you say anything negative about him, I mean, the rods stopped.

The EMFs went back to Greece.

Yep.

Yeah, we were like...

The next time we went there, he had to slow, but he would kind of talk to me and to kind of work with me, but wouldn't.

I had to find...

And I had to bring him a gift.

And I finally had to ask him, do you forgive me?

And he was like, sure.

You had been shunned.

Yeah.

Well, we should say who it is.

It's Jim Williams of Midnight in the Garden, Good and Evil fame at the Mercer-Williams.

Yes, okay.

Let's get clear with that story, that that's who it was.

And someone made the comment that, you know, the other homosexual men, wealthy men in Savannah, older wealthy men in Savannah, was very upset with Jim when he killed Danny, the 21-year-old, because they are all waiting their turn for Danny.

And she said that out loud to a group, and Jim wasn't having that.

Yeah, I mean, literally the rod stop, the MS were going off, they just dead.

It shut it down.

Yeah, it took a couple of times.

She did bring him a cigar because he isn't only to smoke a lot of cigars, but also cigars.

He was bringing flowers, that's what he wanted.

My husband said, I'm bringing the man a cigar.

But that night, if we asked, do you forgive her and the rods were being active and they said, yes, they forgive her.

That's nice.

I was like, oh, God, I pissed off Jim.

Jim, he was known for his Christmas parties, but if you ticked him off, you weren't invited to his parties no more.

So we worried Jim could have run forever.

Yeah.

Well, it seems like it.

That is so interesting.

So with having a lot of visitors, do you find that, I guess my question would be, obviously, they come from all different walks of life.

You get people in from out of state, out of town, maybe out of country.

Do you find that since you deal so much with the public that having come from different regions, different parts of the world, do they all generally look at that experience the same way?

I'm always curious about that because you talk about, like us, we're all a little bit jaded in the States.

We've even in the UK, we all see these shows, we all go through this thing.

And then whether we like to or not, we all come with these kind of preconceived notions of what's going to happen or how you deal with certain things.

Now, that would be if somebody was seasoned.

But then you look at somebody who may not, maybe from a completely total different part of the world, do you often find that those two experiences intersect or are they usually uniquely different?

Well, what I've found is European people who come over and visit and join the tour, they seem to be open to just about anything.

I mean, they're like, whatever, we'll just go along with it, we're here, just tell us why they didn't go right along with it.

And so that's real fun.

Now we found that people from Hispanic countries, they tend to be a little more standoffish towards everything.

Okay.

You know, today start feeling comfortable, you know, some of them never do get to that comfort level.

So that's some of the things we found now.

And also, well, you say different parts of the world, but we also found, you know, if you have somebody that, let's say from different denominations and religion, there's some, you know, just think that she's a witch and we're evil.

And, you know, so you have that aspect of it.

And those are kind of, didn't you read our thing before you signed up?

Yeah, I'm surprised they're even on the tour, honestly.

Yeah, how did you get here?

Yeah.

Long-term thing with me.

Yeah.

But as far as, in general, what we find is that most people understand, you know, they read our description, they understand what they're getting into.

And what we found overall is that they're just amazed that, you know, many times we'll hear that we thought this was going to be really cheesy, but we were glad that it wasn't.

And it was, you know, you guys take it this seriously.

We actually had interactions that were very interesting and convincing.

And so that's what we find overall, no matter where the people come from, they just seem to really enjoy the fact that we're sincere in what we do.

And we honestly try to make sure everyone has a good time.

And within that, we just find it doesn't matter where they come from, we're all people.

And what our beliefs, we're told to love everyone.

And so that's what we do.

Absolutely.

So have you guys had any of the big paranormal investigators or something like that?

You've ever spotted one on your tour or you just...

Now, we're fairly new, however, in Savannah, a lot of them do come here.

Yes, they do.

Which is why I asked.

Yeah.

Now, we would not be opposed to it.

You know, but yeah, that would be great.

One of our partners went on a tour with some guys.

Well, he went on tour with the Ghost Brothers a few months.

Oh, okay, yeah.

So I gave him three cards.

I said, make sure they get those cards and they got a free tour, try to let them know.

Well, Daelin's still very, very active.

He does, so does Juwan.

He's in Savannah a lot.

Yeah, I know that Daelin's in Savannah quite a bit.

Juwan is, actually Juwan was up here not that long ago.

But yeah, I know that Daelin is literally constantly making content on graveyard things.

Yeah.

I actually, we have an iFit machine, a treadmill, and they have the videos and they always do like a Halloween version, like right around October.

And Daelin did one in Savannah in one of the houses.

So you have to like walk through, and it's an entertainment thing, of course, where he's investigating.

But I thought that was interesting.

He's always in Savannah on this.

Wait, you really understand it.

It's like something you're exercising with, but like you're in the hallway?

It's a regular treadmill, but it has a screen.

And so you, you know, for most of the year, it's just, you know, people taking you like outdoors to walk up a mountain or whatever it is to train you and your treadmill moves up and down or, you know, goes faster.

They're trainers.

But during Halloween, they always like follow certain people.

So like, Dalen was one of them one year, and he's just walking through the streets of Savannah or inside a house and he's investigating.

And they like, if they, he thinks he hears something in the house or something, the treadmill will speed up and be like, oh, you need to run away.

It's for entertainment purposes, but it is fun.

Yeah.

That sounds pretty cool.

Yes.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Oh, wait.

Because when they first came out, they were so cute.

They ran away from everything.

Yeah, I love watching them.

They're awesome.

They ran away from everything.

They were so cute.

Well, I mean, I think it takes a while to develop that, run to it, but heck, there's even times when I'm like, okay, really got to talk myself down a little bit, where things start getting a little hectic.

We were in the Glore Psychiatric Museum, and there was an attachment, I think.

There was something trying to attach itself to me or just trying to get information, but I was the only person it would talk to or interact with, and I could hear them in my head before I could hear them anywhere else.

It was very difficult, and I'll admit, I was a bit scared then, and it wasn't like, oh, I was scared.

It was just like, I'm very vulnerable, and I know it, so I was like, okay, got to take a step back.

But anyway, quick question.

As far as devices, you guys don't care, do you ever notice anybody on your tour?

I mean, what do we got?

I don't even know where my cell phone is, but you get the Ghost Tube apps and all that.

Do you ever notice any of them using that?

Well, yeah, and we let people know they're free to use apps, bring in their own equipment, they're free to take pictures, photograph, we don't care what they do.

They're having a good time, go ahead with it.

Now, with the phone apps, there's a lot of them that are really kind of sus.

Yeah, exactly.

I wrote up Ghost Tube.

I will say that I will vouch for the SLS Ghost Tube app.

We had an interesting experience with that, again, in Colonial Park Cemetery.

We were there, we were having a date day, so of course, she wants to go to the cemetery, so good.

Of course.

As one does.

I just got the app, so I'm just playing with it.

It's picking up all these things that you know, it's just picking up trees and whatnot.

Right.

Yeah.

But behind this one bench, there were two stick figures that looked like they were seen running up.

I called Ty, I said, hey, take a look at this, this is like a bot, and I just being a smart aleck, I said, hey, you guys cut that out.

And they did.

Really?

They turned towards us, stood towards us for like 10 seconds, and turned around and started botting again.

That's when I was like, well, maybe this app might have a little something to it.

So-

Right.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Crazy.

People are so divided on the SLF stuff, and I haven't really made up my mind yet because it will try to map out things.

Yeah, we are.

Sometimes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And what we tend to do, we will run ITC app, so like Ghost Tube and things like that.

But we'll also run an EVP or a voice recorder.

We're doing something in parallel, so if we get something off of one of the Ghost Tubes and really not getting anything else off anything of the other devices, I usually think, okay, that was an artifact, just something that's not legitimate.

But there are some times where we were, in fact, we just did an investigation at the University of Arizona, and we were at Old Main, and at Old Main, I'm there with my sister who's actually filming us, and I've got Nicole next to me, and we kick it on, and it literally says, who is she?

There was only two females and nobody else around.

I'm like, that's interesting.

That is really interesting.

And we got a lot of interesting conversation out of it.

I won't bore you guys with it, but it was really interesting.

Go ahead, yeah, go ahead.

Yeah, what was the...

I think it was the Vox app.

I think it was just the regular ghost who...

We haven't gone over any of the...

Yeah, we haven't gone over it.

But anyway.

I don't remember.

But yeah, we had some interesting stuff come out of that, and there was a general overall feeling.

I usually try to tell people, don't rely on just one particular thing.

You gotta look at everything all together, and if they all tells you a story, then you probably got some.

Yeah.

It is interesting that responded to you though, that they stopped.

That's good.

With anything you use, no matter what it is, what I'm looking for is intelligent interaction.

Exactly.

Yeah.

An EMF might go off by itself just for unknown reasons, but if you're standing in front of Jim Williams' house, and I go, Mr.

Jim, can you please come over here and set this meter off and let us know you're here, and it's been sitting on green this whole time, I'll send it and start spiking.

Well, that's pretty interesting.

Yeah, it is.

Absolutely.

We talk about using the mag light, yes, it's randomly gonna come on and off by itself, but if you say, can you please turn it on, and I'll turn it off, and it does it as requested, well, that's something that we might want to look at a little more.

Absolutely.

We have them cross, but then we also bring them back centered.

Right.

And they bring them centered.

You wouldn't get that, yeah.

Backed over right or right over left.

We want intelligent interactions, because people holding rods, they're gonna move a little bit, and they're gonna cross and whatnot just by the way.

But if we ask, please cross, no uncross, no point to the left, well, that's some intelligent interaction going on there.

Or some has claimed, you know, we're just power of suggestion.

You know, I wish if we had that kind of power of suggestion, we need to go into another field of work, because I'm sure it's a little hidden.

We actually know a guy that's an actual parapsychologist.

Fatima is one of the owners of the company we've last worked for.

Great company, indeed.

We're not bad mouth, we're still friends.

We're gonna have dinner.

But he saw what goes on when we're doing our tours, and he suggested that maybe we're moving the rods with our minds.

Okay.

And I said, well, okay, well, that doesn't make it any less supernatural.

No, absolutely not.

I said, but how we truly think we're interacting with spirits, because if we knew we were moving things with our minds, we would be in Las Vegas hitting double zero on the roulette.

You betcha.

I was just thinking that we would let it ride all in every single time.

How would we get to this point?

I mean, I...

Who needs Rain Man or the guy from The Hangover?

We'll just go there and let it go all in.

Double zero, double zero.

That's awesome.

I mean, we had odd things like constantly pop up on like the obelisk.

Oh, yes.

So, the Cothry call him a pastor, a preacher.

Yeah.

Yeah, a brethren.

And they've said, for me, different words as well.

But this has happened, you know, if it happened once or twice, so that's just coincidence.

This has happened numerous times, numerous times.

Right.

Which, back in my mind, I'm thinking, is it that demon following us around?

Yeah, because it's not even on our obelisks, it's like...

Right, on other people's equipment and sites.

But it'll say...

I mean, there's always that possibility that's trying to get back at you, but...

Oh yeah, it's always...

I mean, for me, I think they like to hang around.

We all have our own demons.

That one wasn't a big, big baddie, but it was a bigger one than the other ones, but I still think they're always chirping, they're always trying to...

My theory is, you know, we all have demons.

I mean, they're kind of assigned to us.

You know, they're there to tempt us to see how well our faiths go in and that sort of thing, build our faith up.

But there is what I like to call etch-tress.

And the etch-tress are the ones that come in that, you know, Ty calls them big baddies and I call them the etch-tress.

And so what we experienced that Ty B was an etch-tress or a big baddie.

And so, you know, regular demons, that's just a part of life, but we got to be very careful about the big baddies or the etch-tress because those are the ones who come in and cause the havoc.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, like I said, I constantly like to check.

The more you think you're better, the more you think you're walking a good path and doing what you need to, the more they're going to try and break it down.

They're going to pull the strings to let it all rattle.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, Mike, Ty, I mean, look at that.

We were already zooming right through.

It's always amazing to me.

It's amazing.

The whole world, are we going to pull this off?

They're just like, oh, it's time already.

Yeah.

Well, I know that our audience is going to want to know more about it.

I'm sure some of them will be going through Savannah, and I know that we for sure will be going back.

It's going to win.

We will join the tour.

Yes, we will.

Because I'm very interested.

Yes, let us know.

But how do they get a hold of you, and what's the best way for them to get involved in what you're doing?

Let's see.

This is the easiest way.

I'll get us the dog on there.

Let's see if I can.

Okay.

Okay.

Let's see.

Can you see that okay?

Sure.

Yeah, we can see it.

That's a Spirit Xperience from the Generation X Paranormal podcast here.

So it's experience with no E, X, we're Gen Xers also.

So everything is a big X.

Feel free to get in touch with us through our website or Google.

Yeah, we have a QR code if anybody wants to scan that.

That's a good deal.

Right there.

So we have all that.

But yes, Spirit Xperience, just type that in without an E into Google, and we should come up.

And I'll attach all your links when the episode comes out.

Yes, please.

So they can find you easily.

I think I just shared our phone number and e-mails on here.

We don't mind if that's shared either.

That's perfectly fine.

Got it.

And you have two tours, correct?

Correct.

We have the Monterey Square Tour, which we offer every Thursday and Saturday, and we have the Wright Square Tour, we offer every Wednesday and Friday.

That way, we can give people variety because fortunately, thankfully, we've had people that go on one tour and want to come back and next night go on the next tour.

So that's good.

Yeah.

Private tour, they can pick from either one of the squares.

We're thinking about adding another one for 2025, but we also do private investigations at homes, as well as business investigations at businesses.

In fact, one of the big places here in Savannah is actually on our tour, 1790.

We're actually investigating that this Sunday.

So we're looking forward to it.

Oh, great.

Yeah, great.

We don't tell our guests.

Anybody that wants to reach out to us, that wants to talk about the paranormal, scared about it, have questions about it, we'd love to talk to them.

We don't know the answers.

We have people that know the answers sometimes, that we reach out to them and find the correct answers.

Because we definitely don't want to misinform people.

Right.

That's right.

Yeah.

We refer people to a lot of different people a lot.

Yes.

Yeah.

I understand the feeling, believe me.

Well, listen, guys, thank you so much for being on the show.

We had a great time.

Yeah, we did.

Thank you so much.

Anybody who's in the area or going to be in the area, please look them up and I think you guys have a great time.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And our pleasure.

Hey, thanks, Mike.

Thanks, Ty.

They were a lot of fun to talk to.

Yeah, they were a lot of fun to talk to.

I bet that tour is just awesome.

Oh, and they just, you can tell it's a lot of fun.

Oh, yeah.

A lot of fun to be with.

Yeah.

Guys, if you are in Savannah, you got to check them out.

They're traveling in the nearby area.

Yeah.

I mean, because they also provide the history, which I like, because there is no haunting without the history.

That's right.

How many people have said that?

I mean, I believe that fully.

Well, that's why you do what you do and I do what I do, because I do the history.

Yeah, because if I had to do the history, guys, we would be in real trouble, just as what it is.

You would, sorry.

But no, guys, thank you so much for being on.

I just think that they're set up really well for success.

They're in probably arguably, I mean, I know they say it on the website, but you have the big ones, of course, like New Orleans and a few other places, but Santa's right up there.

It's got a lot of activity.

Kind of like Mike said, it's built on their dead, which is kind of freaky in a way.

Yeah, but most places are, we just don't think about it.

Yeah, that's cool, though.

Yeah, well, and I love the fact that they're taking paranormal equipment and teaching people how to use it properly.

Absolutely.

That is so, so important.

And we've been on multiple ghost tours, and they've been good.

I mean, they give you the history, they give you the sightings you walk through, but you do, you kind of feel like you're just in a group and nobody sees you and you're kind of...

All through the oceans.

Yeah, I mean, well, it's a good experience.

You're also paying a lot for these tours.

To have that small group and that one-on-one and I mean, that's awesome and I commend both of you for doing that.

That's really cool.

So 100 percent.

Well, guys, we've got their links up here for you and put them right here.

Yeah, and I will post them.

We'll post them on our socials.

But if you want to check them out right now, www.spiritexperience.com.

That's right.

That's the way you got to say it.

X, you got to lisp like X.

Thank you so much and we'll see you next week.

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