Generation X Paranormal
Generation X Paranormal Podcast: Exploring the Unexplained, One Mystery at a Time
Delve into the world of the mysterious with Generation X Paranormal, a gripping podcast hosted by the dynamic duo, Logan and Nicole. Each episode takes you on an immersive journey through spine-chilling paranormal encounters, unsolved mysteries, cryptid sightings, and supernatural phenomena. From haunted locations and ghostly legends to UFO encounters and Bigfoot investigations, Generation X Paranormal fearlessly explores the unexplained with a blend of curiosity, wit, and reverence.
As seasoned paranormal enthusiasts, Logan and Nicole bring expert insights, compelling interviews with renowned researchers, and deep dives into famous cases like the Ariel School UFO sighting, the Michigan Dogman, and historic hauntings. Whether you're a believer or a skeptic, this podcast will captivate your mind and leave you questioning the unknown.
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Crystal Channeling Rods: Metaphysical Tools for Spiritual Connectivity
Greg Bressani beckons us to reconnect with our spiritual essence through his remarkable crystal channeling rods—copper tubes with terminated quartz crystals that ground our energy while broadcasting it to higher dimensions. As an artist turned metaphysical toolmaker, Greg's journey began unexpectedly when he discovered discarded bullet casings during wilderness tours and paired them with crystals, creating what he called "spirit ammo." Years later, after finding copper tubing washed up on a California beach, he evolved this concept into powerful meditation tools that help users access what he calls "the divine mind."
The science behind these tools is fascinating—copper serves as an exceptional conductor, grounding our electromagnetic field while the quartz crystals amplify and project our balanced energy outward. Many users report feeling immediate sensations when holding the rods: an electric pulse followed by a gentle buzz that spreads throughout the body. Greg recommends using them while lying down, taking deep breaths, and setting intention to connect with infinite intelligence. The early morning hours between 3-6am—what mystics call the "ambrosial hours"—provide especially potent conditions for this practice.
Beyond meditation, these versatile tools can function as dowsing rods for energy detection, making them valuable for paranormal investigation. Available in three sizes (with larger diameters producing stronger effects), these handcrafted tools use USA-sourced materials and Arkansas-mined crystals of jewelry-grade quality. Greg believes we're collectively shifting from ego-based fear toward heart-centered consciousness—his channeling rods serve as practical tools for this transformation, helping us remember what our ancestors knew but modern society has forgotten: how to quiet our minds and tap into universal wisdom. Ready to explore your connection to source energy? Visit gregbressani.com to discover these unique spiritual tools for yourself.
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It just came to me to do it. I don't know what inspired me to do it. I was inspired, I think I was out on the land a lot. I was doing these they call them mountain tours where they were doing jeeps with people. I learned a lot of the chaparral and the primitive technologies and native plants and so I'd do these tours to locals that would come and anyhow I'd be out there showing them all the stuff. And then one day I found a bunch of casings and I was like what am I going to do with these? But I found a crystal mine in Arkansas and set up some accounts with them.
Speaker 2:They started shipping me some things, and so I started playing around putting the crystals in the casings.
Speaker 1:It's like a piece. The casing had that energy, so it's like I use a lot of found objects. What I particularly find interesting is the imprint of memory on the object so so Well, hey, everybody Welcome back hey everybody.
Speaker 3:I'm Logan and I'm Nicole and we're Generation X Paranormal. So we have a great show. I always say that, but we do so. As some of you folks know some maybe that don't I'm from Arizona and we went to visit my family in October and this was October of 2024.
Speaker 3:So I don't know when you're listening to this or watching it, but that was when it was, and we were there for quite a while. We were almost there for a month, yeah. But it was a good time and how we kind of ended it. We wanted to take a trip up to Sedona and we're going up there to just do what most people do in Sedona check out all the cool stuff and the hike and everything. And if you're into the woo-woo, the cool woo-woo stuff, it's the best place for it. It is the best place for it. But in doing so, we were a little ahead of my sister who was going to join us there, and you know what you do in any other town you drive around for a little bit aimlessly looking for something to do, and we stumbled across a arts and crafts place. Yeah, arts and crafts fair, a little fair. So when we did, we met the gentleman we're about to interview. What can you tell us about Greg Bressani?
Speaker 2:So Greg is an artist and he lives in Sedona and he does multiple mediums of art, which are metal sculpture, charcoal drawing, intuitive readings and digital arts. But the thing we're mainly here to talk to him today about was something that we bought from him. Sure did, yeah, and they are called crystal channeling rods, and we will get into that as we talk to Greg. Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 3:He's so cool. Wait till you get to meet him. Yeah, let's talk to Greg. Well, I can't wait. He's so cool. Wait till you get to meet him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's talk to Greg.
Speaker 3:Well, hey, Greg, how you doing.
Speaker 1:Hi guys, I'm doing great. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely yeah, so kind of a long story short. What is October? We were out in Arizona and I'm originally from Arizona. We would definitely want to go up to Sedona and because, of course, sedona is gorgeous and there's so much and I love Sedona Right, we love Sedona.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:If you didn't need to knock over a major bank to live there, we may actually be there, but we went to a really cool gosh. What was it Just basically like?
Speaker 2:We were waiting for your sister and our nephews to get there and we spotted the little art arts and crafts thing yeah. And we stopped in and that's where we met you, Greg. That's right. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So, greg, if you don't mind, we'll. We'll kind of get into the whole meat and potatoes of everything, but if you could, for our audience, just sort of give us like a very high flyover of kind of who you are and what's kind of got you to this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you bet, Originally I'm an artist. I've been working in this medium of steel for about 30 years. I learned it in high school and I just kept going with it, Went to art school and it's kind of during art school that I started having visitations, and we'll talk about that later. But that led me on to a whole new series of adventures exploring the. Southwest.
Speaker 1:I started having visitations and we'll talk about that later. But that led me on to a whole new series of adventures, exploring the Southwest and kind of understanding this whole thing about energy and spirituality and all kinds of things I knew nothing about. It Kind of came up, born and raised from like a religious background Catholic background but besides that I knew nothing about any of this stuff. Quick background, but uh, besides that I knew nothing about any of this stuff. So I took some trips to the southwest, kind of, during my college years and discovered all these amazing places, uh, particularly one being sedona, and um traveled there and eventually moved there, uh, and that kind of kept everything in line source from there on out, what happened. But yeah, but like for about four years I worked, um, as a park ranger at a particular site there and learned so much information. It was insane, it was really interesting and from there and on it was like it was on.
Speaker 1:So that's all, yeah it's been quite a journey, but I'm back, yeah, back here and, um, I'm loving it, um, it's great. I so, yeah, so I do metal sculpture and I also do, uh, metaphysical products as well. Uh, being out on the land and doing all the things I was doing in the last 25 years, it kind of just developed into that and uh, some tools that I've been able to create and modality out of it, but but, yeah, so I guess you could just call me an artist to enjoy them.
Speaker 3:I guess, yeah, absolutely. Uh, you know it's. What's interesting is that, um, I went to school for art as well. Um, I just, I don't know, I got into that whole. You know, as you get higher up into art, when it comes to education, they either want you to be a, a curator, or they want you to start defining all these different things, and I'm like I'm curator. Or they want you to start defining all these different things and I'm like I'm. That's just not me, you know I, I can't do that. And if you're not a, a curator of the Met or something like that, you're not making a dime anyway. And there's only what about five to 10 real big jobs out there. That, uh, that an art major can really have other than what they, what they do. You know part of their, their love, and I do. I guess I just had a really hard time defining that. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's challenging, for sure, to finish your modern world, to have to work like a full-time job and do your art job is really challenging.
Speaker 3:Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, well, okay, um, you know, let's kind of start kind of getting into the, the meat and and potatoes part, because I think there's so much there. Um, you know, we've, we've obviously we've talked at churn sedona. Now, being in arizona, and I've always known the mountains and all these. All these rocks and crystals and all these different things were very important to my culture and I'm half native, I'm also half scottish, irish or no, scottish swedish I'm sorry i't talk today and anyway, it's always kind of been known through my culture that there's there's an attachment to, to the, to the earth, there's an attachment to, you know, the attachment to all these different things, and Sedona to me, has always sort of been the pinnacle of that.
Speaker 3:Um, you know, and obviously up in that area you have all the different vortexes and you have all the different um, you know all the different healing type things out there, but there's also a lot of high strangeness out there. Um, there's a lot of, you know, ufology, all these other things that are coming to play. Um, so I can see kind of lends into some of the stuff that you're involved with now and we're going to. I guess we can kind of start with when we're in our booth. What we picked up and I can see what's in front of you too are the channeling rods. Yeah, and we'll show our channeling rods here. Yeah, baby Nice, yeah, they're awesome, they are awesome. Yeah, as, as I like to say, sometimes we're not just in the club, we're clients too, but uh, yeah but um, no, they're fantastic.
Speaker 3:Um, yeah, if you can kind of tell us and I know you, you kind of did this when we met, but um, obviously our audience hasn't had the benefit of that. So if you can kind of start with why the rods and kind of how you came up with that, yeah, you bet.
Speaker 1:So around 2012, I was living kind of in the Ojai area, ventura, santa Barbara County. There of California I had moved on from Sedona, went out to study the Chumash culture of California there, particularly rock art styles. I was blown away by a particular rock art style of Bautista and Sedona that mirrored some of the ones that were in the California area. So I went out there. Anyhow, I started getting into it. I have something here.
Speaker 1:I started making their cult spirit, ammos and their bullets bullet casings with crystals put inside and it just came to me to do it. I don't know what to do and I was inspired. I think I was out on the land a lot. I was doing these they call them mountain tours, where they were doing jeeps with people. I learned a lot of the chaparral and the primitive technologies and native plants and so I'd do these tours to locals that would come and anyhow I'd be out there showing them all the stuff. And then one day I I found a bunch of casings and I was like what am I gonna do with these? But, um, I found a crystal mine in arkansas and set up some, set up some accounts with them. They started shipping me some things and so I started playing around putting the crystals in the in the casings.
Speaker 1:It's like a, you know, like a piece. Um, the casing had that energy. So it's like I use a lot of found objects. What I particularly find interesting is the imprint of memory on the object. So this obviously was fired. There's an explosion there. So putting the crystal in there is kind of capturing the imprint and pushing out the frequency as well, kind of broadcasting the frequency. So I started with these, these little guys, how's all started these little?
Speaker 1:I call them spirit ammo, but uh, that's really like leather cups and bracelets and things and I kind of went on a binge with that and then it kind of went. It was kind of a trend, you know, at the time. But so over the years I still kept the crystals and stuff. And, um, at the time this is about the last, probably eight years I was living down in san diego in north county by, uh, carlstad village, and I was surfing a lot and and one day I got out of the water and I found this mangled quarter inch tube of copper tubing and I thought, wow, it just looks so cool. It was oxidized, it looked green and I'm like, wow, this is really powerful. And I thought, what am I going to do with this? So I kept it.
Speaker 1:And then someone just said, hey, try one of those bullets. The little crystal points in it. So I did put it in there. I was like, ok, but then when I really started happening, when I put one on each end, I kind of terminated them, double terminated, and then when I finished that I was like, wow, these are different. Like I don't know, I would hang on to it and I'd get grounded, like, wow, there's something to this. I started feeling it. In other words, for sure.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:That's so interesting, how that started. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's funny because we always so. In fact, I even said this the other day to Nicole. I said sometimes good things take a long time and then great things happen all at once. Good things take a long time and then great things happen all at once. And you know, with that, with that copper, um, and I'm sure you'll talk more about it than you know, you probably have a lot more subject matter knowledge than I do of it. But you know copper we've even talked about it before it's a conductor, right. So you know you look at at the, at the rods, and I know for sure you'll go more in-depth into it. But the copper is part of a conducting. And then you've got quartz, and quartz is obviously used in a whole variety of things as far as how memory is stored and things of that nature, especially big time in the paranormal, when it comes to, well, ghosts, there's a lot of people that can argue that paranormally, paranormally, does that work?
Speaker 3:yeah we'll go with that, yeah that there's a, there's a I'm with it, I'm okay, um, and if it's not, I'm coining it right now. And also, by the way, you need to make sure you trademark, uh, spirit ammo, because I'm pretty sure there's a band out there. Yeah, no kidding, that is a kick-ass name, but anyway, I know it's so cool. But anyway, getting back to it, you know the rare earth, not rare earth, but the earth has provided some very natural things for that. But anyway, I'll let you go ahead because you're the subject matter expert.
Speaker 1:You know I'm with you, I'm learning as I go too. You know I'm with you, I'm learning as I go too. And honestly, I knew nothing about. I mean, I knew about these things and they were powerful when I'd wear them, but when I started taking around with the copper, uh, that's when it really shifted for me. So then when I started doing so this is a this is kind of a thinner rod, almost about the size of this it's about. It was about quarter inch rod. I don't have any left. I gave them all away. Start happening was was have these experiences with them and be like huh, so I'd give one to my friend hey, hang on to this and pray for surf, because we would hang on to them. And, like you know, when you're a surfer you turn into an addict and you got to have it every day. If you don't, you're like oh man, you know, you're like okay.
Speaker 1:So you know that depends on storms and everything else. So we would hang on to and I didn't my friends say, hey, let's work together and see if we could get waves. So that was kind of the original intention. But, um, I started to explore, okay, well, how big, how big could I go? Uh, as far as like diameter and size of of the material.
Speaker 1:So this was kind of like the small half inch size. I worked up to. Um, then I got, I got some here I can show you. Then this is kind of like the three quarter inch size. And Um, then I got, I got some here I can show you. Then this is kind of like the three quarter inch size and then I beeped it up to like the inch size and that's when things really started getting interesting. Um, I only made a few sets and I've given my friends, like some of my really good peers, to check out and say, hey, see if you get some out of this. Because what started happening was is where, as a tool, how would I use it? So I was using them at work because I you know I was, I was working a lot from home, I had a major job on the computer, so I had a lot of electronic frequency going on and this is really and it started.
Speaker 1:I started feeling, really, at the end of the day, grounded, so I was like, okay, there's something to these, um, but it's really when I started meditating with them that it really started working for me um I would find that I would sit there and they'd work and I'd start to feel like a tingling kind of sensation and I was like, okay, because, yeah, like it's copper, uh, as the base and the copper conduit, it grounds us. Obviously it's a grounding force. You can use your feet and take your shoes off and put your feet in the ground on the soil and that will ground you as well. But these have a different more. It's almost like it's like an instant voltage, like pitch, hold you down, like wow, okay, but then that conduit, the copper, works as that conduit where it's also kind of grounding your frequency, your electromagnetic frequency.
Speaker 1:And then the crystals come in and almost like, start broadcasting, amplifying your balanced energy to the higher dimensions. So I like, start broadcasting, amplifying your balanced energy to the higher, higher dimension. So I like to say broadcast it to what I call the non-physical or source energy. People call it God, universe, whatever you want to call it, but anyhow it starts to turn into that frequency. And then it gets interesting. Just because it kind of you could, I start to feel like a relationship going on, like well, I'm not just turning to myself, but I'm tuning into a higher sort of I don't know, awareness, I guess, if you want to call it but right yeah yeah so.
Speaker 1:So I started working with them and then then then the magic really happened, like around three in the morning, okay, so from three in the morning to six am, there's this time they call the embrusial. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that, or heard the term yes, we have.
Speaker 2:Or the Dawn Hour.
Speaker 1:It's a really powerful time because the sun isn't we're not getting bombarded by cosmic frequency, the sun's opposite, so everything's dark, obviously, but it opens up for other cosmic frequencies that come in and it's a really powerful time to meditate and go into, like you know, it's like a meditation, just to kind of tune in and pick up frequencies that are normally not available is the way I put it. They are. You just have to really get into a state. But but at that time I started to like oh whoa, and I started feeling some really deep connections and I called it the divine mind, because it wasn't my thinking or thoughts or feelings.
Speaker 1:I was getting stuff from, like, some of my shelves and it was really powerful, correlating with the rods, like, okay, these rods are coming to you, you should give me, start making these, like, get these out. So I noticed that there was a very powerful connection during the meditation and that's when I was like, wow, start to trim the people and hey, try meditating with them. But you might find it's uh, it might, it's like a booster, kind of like a. It grounds you and then sends you out to for that connection kind of it's a you can get there on your own as well, but there's something about it that really enhances it in a way, right for sure that's so interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think I explained to you at when we were in sedona about how a lot of people in the paranormal investigators they use the copper dowsing rods. So it's basically the same thing. Those are my favorite tool to use because they always connect. I always get answers, and so it's the same concept. It's just we don't have crystals with our dowsing rods. People are starting to add that to it, yeah, but I think it kind of weighs it down in a weird way. So I have mine, do not have crystals, but it's the same concept. So I I totally. When you started telling me about that at the fair, I'm like, yes, that makes so much sense because we are. We've been using it. People have been using it for hundreds and thousands of years that way.
Speaker 1:Yeah yes, and and that's a really good point I've actually I started doing that work, using them as dowsing rods when I'm hiking, and I've been led to some very interesting things, so it works. It works on that frequency too how do you use that?
Speaker 2:I'm curious how do you use them as dowsing rods, since they're straight, so you hold them a certain like?
Speaker 1:I have different sizes I usually use my one-inch ones and I'll just kind of let them. There's like a balancing point where you kind of just hold them. If you, if you lift, put it up, leave it on your corner finger and just kind of there'll be a point where it kind of just balances.
Speaker 2:You can kind of feel okay, kind of, just kind of balance and they'll start to like, like, dance a little bit.
Speaker 1:They'll start to go like you'll see it move, and then they'll kind of like, hey, give me a direction.
Speaker 2:That's so cool.
Speaker 1:They kind of start moving, and so what I've been able to do is be really sensitive to them and figure out, okay, what's happening. And I ask should I go that way? And then you kind of like, you kind of get, you just kind of gotten me that way. I'll see like a point, okay, I'll wait for that, and then take a reading or see, sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's interesting. I'm going to have to try that out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean technically, it's, it's this, it's the same thing. Yeah, you're still using a pivot point.
Speaker 1:It's just now, instead of it being on a handle it's kind of like so like the rods, the, the uh, the the uh dowsing rods you're talking about, right, they have like a little handle and they kind of, they kind of spin, like they move like right, and so these are kind of a little bit more restricted, but they kind of do too, like you kind of just have to get them in a spot that feels right and then just allow it to kind of do its thing, in a way like it will start to kind of take over Right, and I feel like I do better with the dowsing rods than he does, but I use them a lot and so they're connected with me.
Speaker 2:So it's just like it kind of yeah, you get that connection with them and then they'll they tell me everything and he doesn't get as much from that. So yeah, that does make sense.
Speaker 3:Yes, apparently I am not one with the dowsing rods.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah, so that, and then you project it and then moving into, like the space, it totally interacts.
Speaker 2:There's like a definitely interaction Absolutely. Well, now that I know that you can use them that way, I'm going to have to try that out.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's really cool. When it gets warmer outside I was going to say these guys are the Wow. Look at those.
Speaker 1:These are my latest ones. These are the oh wow inch and a half size. They're like massive, and I started using these guys because, like the smaller ones are great, but the larger ones, the bigger the better, like I'm just like oh man, it's just a different frequency, like a little bit stronger, well sure, but they work great. I'm really enjoying experimenting.
Speaker 3:Well, and the thing is, and you know, obviously, you know our, especially with our audience, kind of runs a gamut of folks who are, you know, are believers and they're skeptical and they're this and that, so they're. It kind of runs the gauntlet. But you know, even when you look at it from just a scientific portion of it, the bigger you go with the copper, the more conducting you get. I mean, all you got to do is look at, like, well, I mean basically internet, so internet all flows through what they call an ethernet cable which is just bound up and you know it's different lengths of of copper, you know that go to different pins, so it's all copper there. Um, you know, basically you're using copper for mo.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, I'm in the old days and granted, I'm yeah, I'm 50, but I remember phones. You know, before they were in your pocket they were on. You know they're in your well, either in your mom's room or in the kitchen. But if you ever looked at the phone lines they were copper. So everything was copper and it carries a signal. So it makes sense to go kind of gradual from a smaller to eventually the size kind of like what you got there with an inch and a half. So I mean it makes perfect sense, yeah, moving it up and explore like that progression totally.
Speaker 2:And it's awesome.
Speaker 1:I mean, I probably could go bigger, but handle it. You need like two feet.
Speaker 2:You have to rest it on your shoulder. Yeah, right.
Speaker 3:You start looking like you have a baseball bat on your shoulder.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you ever watched.
Speaker 3:The Walking Dead. But you get walking around with a baseball bat. Yeah, that's amazing, out of curiosity.
Speaker 1:Okay, so, provided you know, someone in our audiences reaches out and I'm sure some will and they purchase some. What are, what are some of the techniques? And kind of walk them through how they would, you know, utilize it for their own uses, you bet. So I got the website going. It's pretty awesome. It's pretty easy, user-friendly. You can go on there and check them out. The three sizes I have are the small, medium and large. Um, I'll just go with the medium ones, just because they right here. But what I use? Okay. So a lot of people say, well, you get two. And most people say I've never seen anything like that. And the thing is is that I was told by source two is important because it creates the circuit, it connects the circuit. You just use one. You could use one, two, but the two is almost like um, gosh, yeah, like a wire circuit. You need all the wires lined up and everything connects.
Speaker 1:So it's almost like connecting the circuits with two and holding one in each hand. You'll start to feel it. But um, so what I do is usually I do it in a laying down position, sometimes on a yoga mat, sometimes on a. When I'm in my bed at 3 in the morning I have them under my pillow. I'll pull them out, but the best thing to do is whatever you're comfortable with Either sometimes people hike with them, like I'll hike with them, sit on a rock, or just get in a comfortable place. Sometimes I'll lay flat on the rock, but I found mostly laying down was the most effective for me. Everybody has a different preference and I'd encourage you know, explore your own, but for me it works great. Holding them in each hand laying down, and then I kind of keep them at my side. I don't grip them too hard, like I'm not, like I'm just kind of lightly grip, you know, and just get a nice grip on them and then just sit there and start breathing. I take about 10 deep breaths Could be to your mouth or nose I usually do it through my nose, but there's different methods but do about 10 deep breaths and then after that I can kind of feel like, well, okay, I feel like a kind of a grounding sensation, but a little tingling starts to kind of come out. And so then I know, okay, usually I'll say a little blessing or a prayer. I call it the divine intelligence. I say, hey, this is amazing, thank you for this opportunity, thank you for all my gifts. I'm so grateful, whatever's going on. But then what I do is I reach out to the infinite expansion. I just say something like infinite expansion. I call upon this frequency signal to flow into my being. And as soon as I say flow, I feel this like electro pulse come through. It goes through my whole body. I can feel it bouncing around my whole. It's it's, it's a, it's a soft frequency and but it first it's like electric and then it like calms down to be this really light kind of a buzz, and and then I kind of say, okay, I let it fill me up, and then I send it back out. I say I'll say I send this back out into the universe and thank you for this frequency, thank you for allowing me to experience this. And then I just kind of sit there.
Speaker 1:Now sometimes I'll put them on my. Wherever I'm feeling energy like, I'll put them on my third eye sometimes I'll put it on my chest. I'll lay them on there as I'm going into the meditation, because when I'm grounded and dialed in, then I go into that meditative mode. You know, this is only. This is going on for like 20, 25 minutes, but it's enough where, all of a sudden, all this and meditation is interesting because the word is, there's a lot of meaning to it, right, basically, if we can get out of our thoughts, we're meditating this list of focus on the abyss and not thinking on stuff, and you'll get into that meditation mode.
Speaker 1:And that's when, all of a sudden, something might come through and I call I've been calling it the divine mind. To be honest, it could be anything, but I feel like it's coming from some divinely oriented source, because the information that I get is different. It's like inspiring. It's like, all of a sudden, something that I may have thought of the day before, say a sculpture or a project. I want to do it creatively. I'll just get this amazing insider solution on how to finish it or how to like go about doing it, instructional, whatever it is. This information comes in during that process. It's different than if I'm sitting there going oh okay, what can I do? Or how do I do this? It's just a different connection, I feel.
Speaker 1:So after that I kind of it's kind of like when I do the readings too, it I kind of it's kind of like when I do the readings too. It's like when you're done. You just kind of know you're done. It's like doing the dishes. You finish the dishes and you're kind of like, oh, I'm done with the dishes, Like squeeze the sponge out, put it away. You know that's kind of how this is too. You kind of come out of it and you kind of feel like, well, I got something really strong's kind of, and on the website and stuff, I give a little bit instruction on there, like you know a couple of different steps, how to go through it, if you wanted to, and just kind of some more information on there to handle Absolutely.
Speaker 2:That's really cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know you said something that makes a lot of sense and I know Nicole was 100 percent in agreement here. I think, as a, as a, as a culture and as a people, we have forgotten how to unplug. Yes, absolutely, you know. We've forgotten that, um, kind of what they say zoning out. It's not that you're. You know it's very healthy, you know it. It resets the mind, it does a lot of different things that that we just don't benefit from anymore. And taking that, taking that time to kind of hit the pause button, you know, put the, put the phone down, put the, you know the ipad and everything away, of course I say that and I'm one of the worst people at it oh, totally, totally but I know it is easier said than done, yes, but making time for um, making time for yourself and your spirituality is very important.
Speaker 3:It doesn't really matter you know what your belief structure is, especially when it comes to, like, you know, obviously, religion and things of that nature. What matters is taking that opportunity to connect with what you feel, not just on a physical level, but on a metaphysical level, what you feel not just on a on a physical level, but on a metaphysical level, and, um, I think as a, as a species, we have completely missed the boat on that. Oh, yeah, uh, especially in the last, you know, ooh, especially in the last like 20 years, um, maybe, even maybe even further back, but, um, you know, we've missed the opportunity to, to get in touch, and I think that's that of what we're missing as a species that helps us connect to what we're here for. I could probably talk for eight hours about this.
Speaker 2:Well, our ancestors knew how to do all this.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Our ancestors knew how to do this and we've forgotten it, or the knowledge was specifically kept from us, right, but I think it's coming, coming back and I and I love that that we're starting to learn how to do it again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'll tell you straight up, when I was growing up, you know, even being, even having the culture that I have, even I was like whatever dude, don't just be, you're like you're. You know you're a freak. When you're young, you don't think about you're like you're. You know you're a freak. Well, and you're young, you don't think about it. And then, as you get older, you realize no, it's true. Well, you know capricious youth, you know I was.
Speaker 3:I'll be honest with you, I was shithead then, so I'm probably destined to be a shithead forever. But, um, but no, I think that's something that we have missed. And I think using using um, divination tools and all these other different things, yeah to to somebody who's not sort of doing that on a day-to-day basis, or has not been, I guess, hasn't been introduced to it. This isn't like some woo-woo thing. This is something that humanity did long ago. In fact, there are still cultures that very much so do it. Now they do, and we are just we're the ones that are far behind. Oh yeah, we're playing catch up now. We're playing catch up now. So, yeah, obviously, hats off to you for number one, for having the foresight as a human.
Speaker 2:Well, it took an artist to do it. It took an artist, that's right that third eye, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, you know, I just think it's it's imperative that that folks look at these things from a different lens. You know, and it's really easy for us because obviously we've got this paranormal thing on top of us and we always we dabble in the woo, woo, but, you know, when it comes right down to it, you know, it's important that people understand that this is not one of those things. It's based in not only metaphysics, but it's also based in physics and science. So, but, yeah, it's fantastic. Again, I could probably talk forever about this, so I'm going to, and he will, will, I will. It's a good thing we have a podcast. So, um, now we talked a little bit about, um, the metaphysics, and I can see behind you, you've got the reiki. Um, this is like the chakra centers, right, exactly. Do you want to kind of cover that a little bit for some of the folks that might have interest in that.
Speaker 1:So when I do, ok, you touched on a really important piece and something I wanted to share was that the modality I call the modality that I use vibrational maintenance, because you're right, we live in a culture where things are moving very quickly. Things are moving very quickly and and and as far as like information is a touch of a button in your pocket computer and your in the phone, in your in your pocket, can send you to the moon man.
Speaker 1:So you know, as a tool gosh, we have all this information at our, at our, at our, at our hands but as a deeper culture and awareness of evolution, like expansion. Expansion If we get too stuck on it, we get to. You know, we lose that other. We almost not necessarily abuse it, but overuse it. I guess it'd be a great word. So vibrational maintenance, it's about okay, we have cars, we have houses, we have families, we all have things we have to maintain. Our bodies kind of get left out because our culture doesn't really get into. Oh, here are the tools to help yourself. They don't want us to know that, they want to keep us in fear and they want to keep us dangling the carrot. But we're smarter than that and we can stop them in their tracks and say no, you know, I have the power to heal myself. I believe and work on my beliefs and change my change, become who I truly am. I believe and work on my beliefs and change my change, become who I truly am. And so, like, these tools for vibrational maintenance help that in the sense that they assist. When you start, when you start to raise your vibration, it gets. It starts to climb and climb and climb. Uh, an amazing, uh, uh. I guess inspirational person out there these days, abraham Hicks, he made a part of her. She talks about it and you get on the sideline disc and it's like, yeah, you raise your vibration high enough. You reach this certain point where the typical things don't apply to you anymore. Like you're like, hey, not, I don't know, like typical societal things, you just reach a different place where you're seeing things differently because you've shifted your vibration, you kind of stepped into who you truly are and that's, I think, something in our culture. Like you're saying we've forgotten how to do it because we've lost touch of what we're all passionate about. Everything costs so much money. You're working five jobs just to cover your family or do whatever. Who has time to step into who they truly are? Exactly Agreed? I think that's really the basis of it is like saying, hey, who am I now? And understanding who that is, and vibrationally you might be there, but getting up to speed with that takes a different kind of approach.
Speaker 1:So the cards, these tools, the card readings are interesting because when I do the readings it's a form of divination. It's an oracle deck, like there's tarot and all these other forms, but this form is more of an internal represent, I guess, perspective on kind of seeing what's going on with your thoughts and yourself internally. And then you, like, I'm kind of the guide when I do the readings with the people. I don't, I don't give too much information because I think again, it's like a power thing.
Speaker 1:When you go to the god, the guru or whatever, you're giving your power away to somebody else, which is cool, but it's not if it leaves you hanging, like a lot of these guys or gals will leave you hanging. And so this modality goes inward and keeps you stuck in, like not stuck, but like focused on your inward things, that you have the power to heal yourself I guess the guide did show you to get there. I'd show you the threshold. But to heal yourself, I I guess the guide did show you to get there, I'd show you the threshold. But and source works for me too I I channel information, but a lot of the cards I can kind of.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you can see them, but a lot of them have like colors on them and stuff, heat colors, and so I put up the shopper chart because I have another little one I share with people. It's because during the readings, when they get a card, I will talk about what they see. Obviously they, they, I deal a card, they look at the card, they tell me what they see from the card and I'm writing it down, logging it down, and at the end I show them how I bridge it to them. Okay, this is what's going on with you. They don't even tell me.
Speaker 1:I can just, I just pull it out and just extract it out. Hey, this is what's going on with you. You're doing something I could tell them. I can't tell them what job they're doing because I'm like, based on these colors, because a lot of the colors like there'll be a lot of blue or a lot of red, and, okay, you need more grounding, energy or you need you're working with a lot of people, you're using a lot of your throat chakra, you're communicating and this is really important. Yeah, so the colors really play out throughout the readings, as well as, okay, centers that they may need work on or that are in balance.
Speaker 3:You know from whatever's going on, emotional or intellectual processes in our culture?
Speaker 1:Yep, absolutely so in a nutshell, it's about getting the viewer to go inward and heal, show them how to use their intuition and their own power to heal themselves, instead of giving it away or saying, oh, how do I do this, it's just a practice. It's always the more we practice, the better we get at anything right power to heal themselves, instead of giving it away or saying, oh, how do I do this, because it's just a practice. It's always the more we practice, the better we get anything right like so that's why I put this up here?
Speaker 1:because when people go see that, they go. What is that? What does that mean? But these? This is the root chakra, the um sacral, the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the third eye or head crown, uh, head chakra, and then the crown at the top, uh, where?
Speaker 1:most of this is based on the sanskrit, uh, hindu religion, I believe, where at the top. Then it goes into there's another four or five, I believe, um, astral planes where shock posts go, like outside, our actual is our outside, the physical being, the spirit being as couple, but anyhow. So this is kind of more traditions. You see this a lot, but a lot of people don't know and they don't know what that means, or they don't know what the colors or chakras are. I think the word can be a little misleading. Basically it's just energy centers.
Speaker 1:We all have them, they're within our bodies and they become imbalanced and that's when we need to do the work, and that's when we need to do the work Right.
Speaker 2:Perfect explanation, it is perfect, short and sweet and it makes total sense.
Speaker 1:I think short and sweet is what people want these days. They don't want a whole bunch of hooligan or woo-woo crap. They're like okay, just tell me the straightforward, what is this? You know yeah, because then they just turn away.
Speaker 2:They're like eh.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly, it's yeah, exactly, and it's just like it's absolutely true we come from our ego, we turn people away, but when we come from our heart, there's a heart connection that we feel and that people feel, and that's the other thing I was going to share is that I believe that our planet's shifting from ego, fear-based energy to a higher, love-based, heart-based frequency. The heart has a brain too, they brain too.
Speaker 1:They found, which is crazy, like you know. So, going through that now we came through business, through everything. It's, it's more of a community base. It's not the me, me, me, me me that we're seeing all these days that that's gonna crash pretty quick. It's, it's how do? I work together how do I work with you? How do I? How do we win? Win not. Oh, I'm screwing you to make a. It's only for today, you know. Like that philosophy philosophy. I feel like is flushing down the toilet.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, and it should, and I think that here's one of my and this is such much a deeper conversation. But, especially when it comes to information, my belief has been and I will go to my mortal, my mortal end, believing this. When I was growing up, information was valuable. You had to work your ass off to get information, whether that's an encyclopedia or going to school. When you got a piece of information, it was incredibly valuable to you, so you never squandered that information.
Speaker 3:And right now there's information overload so everybody can get at the flash of a button, get every little bit of information they have now with you know, with AI and all these other things. And listen, I, I use AI, I have a technical job and we know when I'm not doing this. Um, I utilize all the same things that everybody else utilizes. But I remember, and I come from a time where it was so difficult to get that information and people made millions. They became, you know, the Rockefellers, they became all these other people because they had the information that other people didn't.
Speaker 3:And I think we have. We have totally dropped the ball and my generation's probably, for the most part, responsible for it because we ushered in the information age and said hey guys, we're going to make everything so much easier for you, thinking that that would expand things, that would make it. The problem is we didn't realize that human nature is to do it the easiest way possible. And then, all of a sudden, you've got a lot of people that don't understand how to, how important information is and using, you know, reeking, using all these other things, because all that information is is not available on the internet and it's not available on, you know, on Instagram.
Speaker 3:Yes, you get the information, but to tap into it requires something from you. You know it requires you to be here now, and I think that's ultimately the most important point to that.
Speaker 1:Yes, in the present, for sure, yeah you know, put down that device put down that that addiction to the information almost to say, okay, what's going on? Yeah, for sure, like you could use that, but then, okay, put it away and now go into here and do your meditation or whatever. Like keep it balanced right then?
Speaker 3:well, and they don't understand the difference between I say they, there's people in my generation to do the same damn thing, but they don't understand the difference between I say they, there's people in my generation that do the same damn thing, but they don't understand the difference between a crutch and a tool. You got to understand that there's a, there's a variation. If it's a crutch, then you're leaning too much on it.
Speaker 2:If it's a tool.
Speaker 3:a tool has a place that can be put away a place that can be put away.
Speaker 2:You know, one of my favorite quotes from our daughter is you know, obviously she's in college, so she's at that age where the phone has got to be on 24 7 you know, but the funny thing is, I'm like what would happen if you had to go back to like just even early 1990 and live, you know?
Speaker 2:and she's like I wouldn't survive five minutes? Yeah, just like, isn't that? Yeah, I mean, that's the way I think. Yeah, yeah, and I'm like it was really nice not having to like, and she's like I wouldn't survive five minutes. Yeah, just like. Yeah, isn't that fascinating? Yeah, and I'm like it was really nice not having to constantly check your phone. You just lived your life. You didn't have to worry about accountability constantly.
Speaker 3:Well, and I think they were given a very. I mean, I listen to a lot of different podcasts and stuff like that, but now I listened to smart list the other day with Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, all those guys but Will Arnett said something that I thought was really interesting with his kids, he's and, I guess, guys I know this is way off the path, but it kind of isn't either Um, he basically said with his kids that the more they, the more that they are not virtual. He gives them more freedom in the real world and less freedom virtually. So, like when they were 16, he would not give them rights to, or rights, the ability to use some of the social platforms, but if they were to want to do something out in the real world, he found himself giving them a lot more flexibility, and I think that's much more important to. Honestly, I found that really kind of well. I took that to heart. That was really quite poignant. So, again, it's just another one of those.
Speaker 1:be here now for yeah, how we use that information I'm going to step off this box. For sure you hit on a really good point too. Is man like in the lab? We look back at the last 75 years doesn't seem like a lot of time. We're just talking like the 50s till now. Dude, the, the phone, the phone. It's expanded so much exponentially that it's like it's just a matter of time before we're going to be like hologramming each other. Oh, I know Probably already there now you know, I'm sure it is, it's fascinating, mm-hmm. Well, and they've got In one perspective.
Speaker 3:Yeah, go ahead. What I was going to say. I remember watching like, was it Big Bang, where they had a virtual presence or a oh Anyway, where Sheldon's running around there with his virtual oh yeah, I mean, would not surprise me one bit if you know that dude who's on TV a lot and you know I'm not going to say his name, but he has those electric cars and anyway he's developing those sort of things and in my personal opinion, sure he is that is going to be something that, first of all, is very frightening and I mean people are going to eat that up and anyway, long story short, so your odds, I'm just kidding. I could speak like I said.
Speaker 1:It's something that I will go on forever about what I get from the conversation I think it's a really important thing is that we're here now, and in the next five years it's going to seem like 20 years because the advances that are going to come it's like them pitching us the PC, the personal computer.
Speaker 2:Everybody thought oh, the crazy world's going to want that shit, but now we can't live without it.
Speaker 1:We've got all these devices and everything running off it. I know these guys talk about like oh, you know, you're gonna have this bot in your house, it's gonna do everything and you're just gonna hang out. It's gonna go get and they're gonna be making services and goods and you're like I know what, and they're like you're gonna be doing. You're getting universal income. Why do you care? I'm like going what like who's that's? Does nobody else see the problem in this? Like I don't know?
Speaker 2:it's by design, of course, but it's a synthesis right, but it's like the jetsons has come to life oh yeah I can think I was like that's watching the jetsons. I'm like that will never happen in my lifetime, but it very well could.
Speaker 1:Sorry, we're starting to see it like flying cars is only a couple years out from that, you know, yeah, like drone cars, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And we stay home, get to Sedona instead of an hour.
Speaker 1:You know, that'd be great.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, no kidding God, we'd live in Sedona and work out here if we could do that.
Speaker 2:Seriously. Just that's what I'm waiting for. The teleportation I can just zoom right in there.
Speaker 3:But we say all this to say that, utilizing what you have, you know, with the channeling rods, you know we've kind of gone through this whole, you know, interesting journey to come back to. It's important to learn how to channel yourself, to take, yeah, the tool that you provide to, to find that centering. You know, I don't think we're lost as a species to not be able to come back to it, and I think you're right, I think a lot of people are starting to. Yes, you know, make no mistake about it, sedona is absolutely busy. It is jam-packed all the time now, granted, probably not during the winter, but no, you know it is it is it now too, is it?
Speaker 1:yeah it's becoming all year out, which is great.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay and a lot of people don't realize that the reason a lot of that is is because of this. You know, a lot of people are going to the mountains. A lot of people is is because of this. You know, a lot of people are going to the mountains, a lot of people are going hiking, they're going to the, to the art shows and the craft shows, and the red rock means something. There's something in there when it comes to sort of like these hotspots and being able to access things that they've not able to access, you know, whether it be in the Midwest or wherever you're at, so it's important to have tools like yours, you know, available and obviously Sedona being it's a special place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there is a special feeling there and once you go, once like for me it's just a connection now and I want to just keep going back and if I could live there I would. But yeah, like we said previously, we can't afford to, but I just I, I adore it, like there's just a connection and you just feel it on a spiritual level yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:I well, when I moved away and I was living in San Diego, I I got, I was laid off and I was in this position like, oh god, what next? Like holy cow. But I could hear a source going okay, it's time for you to step into who you truly are. I'm like, okay, well, if I stay in California, I have to work a full-time job in RY, or maybe two, you know. And when am I going to have time to do this? So I was going through this whole process and it's funny because one of the things I tell people it's like okay, if you're in the Popsicle business, you're not going to move to Alaska to sell your Popsicles, you're going to move somewhere where people are buying their.
Speaker 1:Popsicle and artists kind of think that way too. You know you kind of have to. So I knew like this card deck took me about 22 years to make. I mean I had it done, but honestly, intellectually I was there, but emotionally it took me many years to get up to speed with what the hell who actually was and what this was about and what I was going to be doing.
Speaker 1:And so once I reached that point where I was like, all right, Source, I had three options. It was like go back to Ojai Ojai's kind of a really spiritual community, artist community as well but again it's uberly expensive. So it's like, all right, where do I go? And then all of a sudden I heard Sedona. Again. I was like that's it, Because people are coming. It's like go to the place where you can sell. People are coming to a hotspot for this type of information. They're wanting this kind of healing or have come before and want to revisit. They're taking their personal journeys to have an experience out here and that's why they come here and and that's why they come. So you're right, people come to to connect, to feel the energy. There's a lot of curious people. It has changed a lot. Um, I'm sure you guys have been in out there during the 90s or prior, but oh I did, yeah, I wasn't, yeah it changed pretty heavily.
Speaker 1:I was even amazed, coming back, how much it changed. I was like whoa, it's just, it's kind of more underground, all that kind of stuff more underground, which is totally cool because you could still get it, it's still accessible and still figure out what's there. And maybe it needed to go through that process just to kind of wean out and just kind of get more grounded and deeper into it, I guess. But you're right.
Speaker 1:There isn't a slow I guess you can kind of say a slower time, but it's still hundreds of cars parked at the trailhead. I mean you're just like, wow, okay, it used to kind of like be an issue, but it's not because you talk to all these people. They're all enjoying the same thing and most of them just go about a half a mile or a mile in and turn around, so you're not going to see anybody if you go way out there, you know.
Speaker 3:No right, if you find yourself in Flagstaff, you went too far.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I will say though like every time we've been there, there's never an unhappy person in Sedona. I've never met an unhappy person. They're always relaxed, enjoying the day, and it's so great to see that and to feel that. I mean you can feel people's auras when you're around them and what kind of mood they're in and you always just feel peace and you feel happy and it's just a very special place, absolutely totally, and one of the things I was really digging on are those shows, those little art craft shows you guys, where we met, because they're just, they're more of a raw outlet.
Speaker 1:It's not like a store. It's kind of more of a like a not necessarily carnival. It's more of like a different kind of experience, different kind of setting. But you, just from being a vendor there and doing it, it's really amazing because you get to just so many people that have never seen stuff like this and want to are interested. It's just, it's just opening more and more and more people up to what, what else is out there is like as a healing tool available, an available tool as you expand your own awareness or your own person, your own being.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, and I think we're going to see more and more tools like this being developed as we move forward. People are stepping up and realizing yeah, we're evolving. We need these kind of tools to educate and to resonate with, to utilize 100%.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely. I know, at least in the paranormal community this is going to be a big thing. I think, oh, yeah, yeah, Once people start using them and learn. I mean because, yeah, we haven't really used them on an investigation yet, but I'm trying to figure out exactly how to go about that, but I'm excited to try what it does.
Speaker 3:I'm excited to try what it does. It's because there's a lot to it that it brings in a lot of different things when it comes to doing actual investigations, because copper, that's going to help conduct for spiritual and quartz, yeah. So it's like bringing in a lightning rod.
Speaker 2:I'm curious about using it during, like an Estes session which, if you want to explain to him, he may not know.
Speaker 3:Are you familiar with it? What an Estes method? Estes method it's hard to say it all at one time. No so in the paranormal community Developed at the Stanley Hotel Right, which is why it's called.
Speaker 2:Estes Estes Park.
Speaker 3:And we know the, we of, by, by second nature, know the people that developed it and and kind of brought it to. But what they do is kind of a sensory deprivation. So they cover their eyes and then they wear noise canceling headphones and they put this thing called an SB7 box or it could be anything that does kind of the sweeping back of radio and in doing that they can hear. You know, the thought is, spirits can utilize that to say words, to actually communicate.
Speaker 3:But you'll find that most of the people oh yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 2:And one part you know, one person will ask the questions, Right, and they can't hear what you're saying, and then they. What the belief is is that spirits can then talk through the radio into the person wearing the headphones and answer the question.
Speaker 3:Yes. What she said, yeah, and the thing is, you'll find a lot of people that do this. They hold crystals. They still things Number one to protect themselves and also to help them channel and get some of that information, yeah, connect higher.
Speaker 2:So with these I'm thinking it's just going to majorly boost that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we've got a friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've got a friend that I'm going to put these in her hand, and she's very well known for this. Yeah, she's awesome at SD session. I'll have to send you to their page and have you check it out afterwards, but I can't wait. I'll see her use these.
Speaker 3:Absolutely Well, greg. I think we're going to move in, so we'll be there probably in about what a few days, and we've got some dogs. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:We've got a place for you. We'll keep you guys in the house. We'll head to the site that was good you guys, recalibrate it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:But before we get to do that, let's do this. Let's go ahead and tell our audience where they can find you, kind of everything that you're doing, and how they can catch up with you.
Speaker 1:Sure, first and foremost, probably the website's the best way. It's just wwwgreatbrassanticom. Maybe we can put it in the notes later or somehow you guys do it, but it's really easy. I go in there and it's pretty user-friendly. It talks a lot about the product information, what the cards are, about, how to use the cards. I basically put the guidebook on there. There's a shop you can point and click. It's all set up. Use your credit card, I ship it out, it's all included in the price. So it's kind of cool. You don't have to dig around with all these prices and tag-ons, but everything's included tax, everything, and then I send them out. So it's I have about. I think there's 10 of each on it on there. Hey, it sold out. It takes me a minute that it's a hands-on, organic process.
Speaker 1:They're made in the usa. All the products come from the usa. The crystal never got to tell you. They come from mines in arkansas. I mean, they're hand-selected jewelry grade points. They're not just like thrown in a box or picked out. You know they're really nice points. So that adds to the quality as well. But, um, yeah, the website's the best. And then, if you're in Sedona, there's only four shows happening this season for the spring season.
Speaker 2:Every month there's one this weekend Hang on, hang on.
Speaker 1:It's two plus three, but there'll be one in March, April and May, Probably around the holidays, like there's one probably around Mother's Day in May, Probably around the Easter weekend in April, and then March I'm not sure maybe the middle of March, but usually there's like 12. So we're hoping maybe in the fall there'll be a little bit more schedule. They're usually about 10 to 12 in the fall, so we'll see if that's better, but that's the other way you can find me. And then in Sedona there's let's see, I don't have any storefronts right now, but they're coming. I'm going to be setting up accounts. It's kind of my business plan set up more accounts and possibly do readings at one of the locations there. I'm not quite sure yet. Eventually I'd like to set up my own reading room, but that's coming later.
Speaker 2:So lots happening.
Speaker 1:That's right now, with the best I'd like the website to be the best Perfect the best.
Speaker 2:Why the website be the best, perfect, great. We're just going to pause. First, our dog's going crazy.
Speaker 1:He wants to say something. Don't forget your pets. They work great on your pets.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, here we are talking about pets and yet ours go absolutely shit crazy.
Speaker 2:Probably a delivery at the door. Just we'll wait for a second. Give it a second Done. Hang on, I'm going to no worries, just we'll wait for a second until she give it a second done. Hang on, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3:no worries okay, hey, you shut up. Oh no, you don't see what I mean. I get yelled at all the time here. Um, anyway, this will make a great outtake, by the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:It's really natural with you guys, Like it's just a nice smooth process. There's like being ourselves. It's you could be. I feel like I could be myself. It's been really great experience, so I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3:For sure, really happy to do it. Other than that, greg, it's been, it's been great having you on. Obviously, having met you, we, we knew we wanted to have you on and I think that I think what you're doing is is so important, and I think it's important not just in paranormal, but it's important like we talked about, you know, just for for, for being able to center and being able to be us. It's for being able to center and being able to be us, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. I'm so excited to get this out and to share this with people that we know, because I think it's going to make a huge difference in the field, for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, I really appreciate that too. Thanks so much for considering me and having me on. It's so nice to have the opportunity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean just it was we were lucky. Yeah, just ran on to mean just it was we were lucky. Yeah, just ran onto you and it was, it was fantastic.
Speaker 3:It's serendipitous.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, greg, again, thank you so much, and we're going to go ahead and let you, let you get back to your evening and we certainly appreciate you being on Sounds great.
Speaker 1:Thank you guys too. I'm so grateful and listen, come back and hook me up. Hook up with me. We'll take you out to a couple sites. We'll get you guys back in there.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure, absolutely, you can count on that.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Sounds good Okay.
Speaker 3:All right, guys, we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1:Thanks so much, bye, bye, have a great night Take care you.
Speaker 3:You need to go out there and get these.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they are awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:Greg, thanks for coming on. Yeah, thank you so much. It was just meant to be meeting, I think, yeah.
Speaker 3:I think so Serendipitous. As we said, yes, but you know we have yet to use these in a paranormal investigation, but we have used them. Otherwise we get you definitely get the feels. There's a lot to it, but more importantly, it's all about intent.
Speaker 2:Remember that, and Greg had some great information like all the things that he has for sale there and how to use these rods, and you can reach out to him as well. Yeah, in there, um, he's obviously, you can see, super nice guy is willing to help anybody, and I highly, and that's really cool, because he didn't have the great big one. No, he didn't. At the show we got the medium size ones, um, which are easier to kind of hold, at least for my small hands, which is why I picked these. But those big ones, can you imagine what they do? That's so cool. Yeah, they're going to be pretty amazing.
Speaker 2:That may be a later purchase at some point in time, but, yeah, definitely hook up with them, check them out, and we'll try to keep updates on when we actually do some investigations with them and see what they do. And I plan on putting these in the hands of someone very special when she does a nasty session, and I'm curious to see what that happens. And I think you know who you are. Yeah, you know who you are. So but, yeah, thank you so much, greg. It was great meeting you and hopefully we can have you back someday. But definitely, guys, go check these out. And he's got other art as well, if these are not what you're interested in, even the oracle cards, which are all photographs that he has taken on the oracle card. So, yeah, check it out.
Speaker 3:He's really approachable. Guys reach out to him and yeah, thanks for watching. Yeah, well, see you next week. Thank you.
